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    I think the board is having kittens...it says at this momen that I am signed on...however it lists me 3 time, as 3 members signed on, all with the same name...and its loading VERY slow...

    Hic...

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    probably... But someone seems to have patted it's back and it seems to be running fine.

    Argg... IT never hiccups when I am around...
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    having kittens? i saw the hiccup too, but if it was really having kittens keep them away from dave.... he might eat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockangel1210
    having kittens? i saw the hiccup too, but if it was really having kittens keep them away from dave.... he might eat them.
    huh???

    inside joke perhaps???
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    ask dave what he thinks about cats. go on.... do it.

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    LOL, ok, Dave, what do you think about cats...?

    And I must say, I love cats, but they can be scary. I work at a vet, and the number of times I have been bitten and/or scratched by a "cute little kitten...."

    There was once a kitten who had worms, so I needed to give it the dewormer pill. I pop the pill in its mouth, my first finger slips just a little in, and the thing bites me!!!! The moment before hes sitting looking cute, a little 6 week old kitten, and the next hes bitting me!!!! and then right after that he looks all cute again!!!!! (I then got to cuddle with him, after cleaning my finger...) :D

    My problem with cats is that there smarter with dogs. You take blood from a dog and hes like "yea....okay....what are you doing to me.....outch...." but a cat looks at you and quite frankley says "if you touch me with that needle, you will die"....

    Ok, thats my little rant about cats. I love all animals, cats, dogs, mice, anything, they just can be scary when there at the vet (and as I don't have a cat, thats where I only see cats...)

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    ahhh... cats...

    the little furry demons from the underworld. I have known cats that have outlived 7 dogs... the demon feline sucked the life out of these dogs... dogs, who are noble creatures... the sole holder of the title: Man's Best Friend.

    I am allergic to cats, and the vast majority (read: all) of these fluffy blooksuckers seem to realize that I am allergic to them and they invariably tend to rub up against me with an attitude that says, "I laugh in the face of the shadow of death... then I pee on his couch."

    These harlots of the animal kingdom have no respect for anything but themselves. They scratch, they bite, they piss, they hiss, and MY GOD... have you ever heard a cat fight? It sounds like a recording of judgement day, played back at double the speed.

    They roam the streets feeding off the rodents of the cities... the disease-infested sharp toothed four legged creatures are a menace.... and don't get me started on the rats. :wink:


    But in the end, I love cats, I really do!!






    They taste like chicken

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    They taste like chicken ha? Very funny.

    Cat’s invariably are more intelligent or at least more devious than dogs. They know the hand that feeds them like a dog, but also know that hand will keep feeding them so they don’t have to make friends with such people. Instead they concentrate upon the non-cat people. My 15 year old cat at Mom’s house I was just holding tonight, what a pitiful bag of bones, no wiskers left and not much hair, lost all his fat, just skin and bones now but feed him later than he wants and it’s still the same cat. Leave food on the kitchen counter - can be even Lettice and it’s gone. This cat eats bananas.
    From day one he sought out to torture my step father who used to hate cats. Only early reason he survived was he is a good mouser. This many years later, they are sort of busm buddies that can’t Lazy Boy in front of the TV without each other. A cat will change you with time like it or not. Dogs give up on those that don’t like them and take it personally. Cats like people will do something about it and have a strong sense of self.

    My first cat used to exercise my Dad late at night. Kind of a circle to my old house and Dad would chase the cat around in a circle until at some point the cat ducked under a table and just sat there and watched Dad running around in a circle. Ah’ a fond memory to laugh at. Cats are cool, cats are devious and carry a grudge. No my old cat - he was mine after all never bit me but he would come back an hour later and bit someone that offended him. There was a fourth cat that was more of a in being nice to all and respecting those that don’t like them. Very wide ranges in them. Rockangel you must take him to see a production of Cats ASAP...

    My current cat, poor little runt of the litter was grabbed from under the frame of a SUV at a busy Chicago intersection. He is too nervice around people and noises for his own health. Poor little thing, all he wants is a little attention. Wants to play but is getting too old to be amused. Doesn’t like other animals nor people, just a little rub around the ears at times. Right now, he is sleeping and thank goodness, otherwise he would be attempting to mark his territory or other trouble thus the spray bottle on the desk. That’s when he is not wishing to play or be petted. Yea I have and have always had cats, than preferred them to dogs, hamsters and other animals. Spray the cat and ten minutes later he is back. As if a human could tell him what to do. All cats have very unique personalities. I baby sat one that wanted to just sit in a window, but the instant your back was turned he was off the window cill and trying to instigate trouble with the other cat. But in an I’m a nice guy innocent type way. Hard to blame such a personality in a Persian with one blue and one green eye. But he like all cats learn what a water spray bottle is and that corrects bad intents for the moment. After a while, no means no, especially when that plant grooming bottle is pointed at. This same cat while babysat by someone else ran away from the babysitter and twice was found two miles away at home. How the heck in an urban setting can a cat find his way home from that far away in crossing railroad tracks and all? It’s an outside cat, his primary chosen feeder person is thought to be very much one of many that have adopted him - that is when he visits. At times when mad, the outside cat goes away for days.

    Dogs can be noble - usually not, cats are just as, if not much of the time much more developed in individuality and personality. That’s the key, cats don’t accept people as Master, more associate that feeds them. They come upon call, that is when they wish to, but they definitely are very bright in just about all cases in a way dogs could not consider. IQ I think of a cat is much better, thus dogs might be Man’s best friend, but a cat is a associate not subservant. Depends what you want in a animal I guess as to what’s a better pet. Yell at a cat and they are not sorry like a cowering dog. They might duck and cover but it’s self preservation. But my cat is there with me every morning and helps to get me up in wanting his milk or just wanting to cuddle. Man’s best friend, ever hear of kittie ballast. That’s when you have a cat sleeping upon your legs. Not enough weight to cut off circulation but very much enough to ensure you don’t roll in your sleep plus for some reason sleep better.

    Dave, they are not bloodsuckers, just very individual. Yea, they will torcher and suck the life out of a dog if they choose but that depends upon the cat and dog. That old cat gets fed not by making a nucence of himself but in pissing off the dog so as to make it impossible but not to feed him. Raw intelligence. A dog would just beg, cats demand. Got to respect that.

    Take your medicine in being able to be around them and get used to them. Such animals are far more interesting plus you don’t have to take them for a walk. Such animals won’t also over eat in most cases. Feed them wet for dinner than keep the dry food around and they for the most part take care of them selves plus any mice or bugs about.

    They pee on your crotch? Must want ya baby in marking it for his territory. That or he really hates you. Never heard of that before. Anything you want to tell us Dave?
    Seriously, if you get the cat’s nuts clipped before puberty there is a very good chance they will never mark their territory in that way. The 15 year old cat never once did so. The two cats before that only once in a long while. This cat I now have is 100% natural so it’s instinct. Year round is not - more a call for attention, but instinct none the less.
    Once that art comes to them it’s not possible to break them of the habit but there is things you can do. For instance, my cat won’t mark a wool blanket, nor a cardboard box. Set a card board box up on the sofa, perhaps other materials they avoid and they won’t mark it. It’s said they won’t touch plastic sheeting, not the case with my cat. My cat for instance loves to sleep upon the cardboard box on the chair with the wool blanket, or the bed with the same type of blanket. In other words, the chair he has chosen he instead sleeps in. They like being up high and in a place they can watch anyway. Perhaps some boxes living on the sofa when you are not on it but in the area would be a solution. Than a blanket they will sleep on since it’s the cat’s sofa now.


    My current cat won’t touch a knit comfortator on the other hand. In other words, find “Kitty No” spray, or what materials they won’t go near and protect what’s needed with it. Such animals also usually won’t mark stuff as theirs unless you are in the room. It’s just like kids for the most part in keeping an eye on what they are up to but not concentrating upon it. Just an odd thing I have noticed. Another cause can be stuff like litter box too close to the food, or not enough litter boxes - much less clean ones. At least you don’t have to walk or pooper scoop a yard with cats. So the answer to the marking is to provide a litter box in the area that cat most want’s to mark. If the sofa is that cat’s prime goal a litter box somewhere near should suffice. That or either block it off so the cat can’t get at it, provide a surface t hey will won’t mark, or provide a covering they won’t get near.

    As for scratching, keep a water bottle handy. Cat’s must scratch if they have claws. Keeps them sharp and I think they itch unless done. What have you provided for the cat to scratch upon? Mine has multiple side grain layers of cardboard which over time he has accepted as his primary scratching post. To get this from him, it over a period of time was scented with catnip and it’s rare he will scratch furniture now. Otherwise he has a carpeted ramp up to his nest in the bedroom - above a cabinet and towards the ceiling. Loves to lean into and scratch upon the carpeted ramp when thinking, pissed at getting sprayed or otherwise board. Provide and give incentive to scratch in a proper place and there is no problem. That old 15 year old cat gets to scratch what ever he wants - he has no claws. My current cat has full claws but it’s rare he attempts to scratch up the furniture. Water bottle cures that also. Must be luke warm and it’s a discipline thing not a torture thing.

    Harlets of the animal kingdom, nope just individuals that have been for the most part domesticated when raised around people. Otherwise, they are all natural little lions of the streets. It’s an animal. A devious one but certainly much more to be respected than a rat. Rats have food and sex on the mind, cats are so much more devious.

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    hehehe, oh Ship I couldnt agree more. If Dave wasn't allergic to cats I would introduce him to mine, I actually think he might like at least one of them, as they all have very individual personalities.

    But he is allergic, so chances are I will allow him to continue in his dislike for them, because even if he has no other plausible reason for dislike, the allergies are a valid one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ship
    They pee on your crotch? Must want ya baby in marking it for his territory. That or he really hates you. Never heard of that before. Anything you want to tell us Dave?
    uhh... ship? I said couch... not crotch...
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    seem to realize that I am allergic to them and they invariably tend to rub up against me with an attitude that says, "I laugh in the face of the shadow of death... then I pee on his couch."
    I am just very much not a cat person... and that was my humourous rant about cats... gets some good laughs... especially the part about the cat fights sounding like a recording of judgement day played back at 2x.

    When I was younger, there was a neighbor down the street who seemed to want to run the world's biggest cat hotel. There were cats all over her property and sometimes you could here the cat fights... and then, seeing as we were in alabama.. an older gentleman (bless his heart) across the street would get up at around 2am if he heard cat fights and let loose a shotgun blast into the air.. that usually got the cats to shut up for the night. All the other neighbors were used to either noise and it never bothered anyone except visitors... such are the strange stories from that little town in Alabama that seemed frozen in time (about 1965 roughly)
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    Ugh..a CAT discussion..
    :roll:

    Well Dave, I'm with you--I happen to like cats...as long as they are DEAD cats.

    I'm a cat hater...cannot stand the fuzzy clawed bundles of attitude for any length of time--and I am not allergic to them. They are pure evil in disguise. Friends and roomates of mine all had cats...they destroy your property and stalk you..they have attitude and adjustment problems that in a person would require a stay in a sanitarium...they are not trustworthy or reliable pets and certainly of no value as a pet for protection or warning or love or companionship...they are not trainable to any real degree exepct to come running when they hear the canopener..they are as affectionate as an ice storm...they are murderers and sadistic to things they play-kill before they kill it like birds and mice...their finnicky nature is the basis for an unpredictable and unloyal animal to anyone but themselves, their wants and their needs. If I wanted all that around me--I would simply find myself a psycho ax murderer. I prefer animals who give love and appreciate those around them...those animals are the ones who get my love and attention. Cats are not part of that picture...yet everywhere I go they find me and try to be nice--but I see thru their lies.

    LONG LIVE DOGS. The most Nobel, loyal, loving, playful and caring of animals...the canine is the truest animal companion man could ever hope to befriend. Dogs CHOOSE to associate with people--the only animal that does so by its choice--where Cats--they could care less. Both animals would be fine away from humans--but a dog--they seek out human companions to be friends with. There's a reason dogs are used for bomb finding, people finding, and protection--none of those things a cat would do or consider for a human being. Tell a cat to go find some kid lost in the woods..the cat would go chase a butterfly or kill a mouse...WHY--cause cats don't have any care or concern about anything but themselves...they befriend no one...they care for no one and want to know no one.. That is the sign of a solitary animal to a degree of dementia...


    Now you know why my nickname is after a nobel canine breed and not a useless hairball of lies and deceit... Cats are furnature accessories like throw rugs and pillows...

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    arrgg.. I wish I was 21 so I could raise a pint to that, wolf... well said!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dvsDave
    arrgg.. I wish I was 21 so I could raise a pint to that, wolf... well said!!
    Move to Australia/The UK.

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    [quote="ship"]They taste like chicken ha? Very funny.

    My 15 year old cat at Mom’s house I was just holding tonight, what a pitiful bag of bones, no wiskers left and not much hair, lost all his fat, just skin and bones now but feed him later than he wants and it’s still the same cat. Leave food on the kitchen counter - can be even Lettice and it’s gone. This cat eats bananas. [/qoute]

    Is your cat loosing weight, but still have a great appitite? An older cat, eating a lot, but still loosing weight is a red flag for hypothyroidism. This is very common in cats, espically older ones (7 and up). If this is the case, go to your vet and get a blood test done, that will tell if the cat has hypothyroidism. There are pills, usually once a day or twice a day that can treat the cat, and help the cat feel a lot better. A repeat blood test usually 1 mouth after the medication has been started will tell the vet if the medication is at the right dose.

    Just reading those sentices of your post makes me think that, so before I finish reading your post I just wanted to warn you of this. Eating fine and loosing weight are the two main signs.

    wow, I've been working at the vet hospital for way to long, huh....

    Anyway, just FYI
    --Zac

    PS. I know some cats that are nice. My only cat (who died on the table while we were geting her fixed) was the sweetest cat there is. If i lay down on the couch she would jump up and lay in my lap, or just sit on my sholder. She was a snowshoe, a mix between a simiease and something else. I also know of the sweetst cat through work. He is, 13 now, i think. His name is JJ. He is the sweetest cat ever. He has almsot every medical condition that a cat can have. He gets poked by needles every day for fluids, and he'll just sit there and now care. HIs mother (owner, we call the owner the mother/father) is a little odd, and has given us around $3,500 since March...

    Anyway, cats can be nice or hell. Im more of a dog pereson cause I like to be able to not worry about hurting the dog by laying on it, but cats are very nice to.
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    The old cat, na. it's been to the vet. Believe it has a thyroid condition (reverse of normal, or something of that nature to make it loose weight, but the hunger thing is more just what he want's he gets.) - I don't live or visit home much anymore, but the cat is in good health other than that. Very social in fact, plus he is dominat to the dogs. Thanks for the warning but it's just old and has his problems much like me with loosing a bit off the top.

    As for cats/dogs, yea were I to die, my eyes would be the first thing the cat devoured from me. That's just fact that the cat will eat it's master. At least it like the dog won't leave piles of poop all over the place until found, and even than look after itself and eat the flesh. Granted a dog would be howling a lot at that point. Cat's howl also when it takes their mood. More to a point, last night I got home at 10PM. Other nights it's earlier or later, plus the place is not that large. Cats don't need a large living space to be comfortable, much less constant care. When they are hungry they eat. When not they don't. You want to stay out all night, you don't have to worry about the cat. It's indipendance is at advantage. They all have personalities, but for the most part they take care of themselfs. You say Hi kitty when they wake up and need some attention, as opposed to you gotta go out?

    But there are cat and there are dog people. I'm one more for the mystery in what a cat's thinking as being his own thoughts. There have been some great dogs in my life, but cats are so much more reliable and easy to deal with.

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    Ok, at work i'm just use to taking what ever small pice of information our clients give us, and try to understand what happens for that. In my mind any old cat that eats a lot and is thin is a possible thyroid patient, and at work its my job to make sure that the vet notices and gives that the proper attention. I'm usually wrong, but once in a while i catch something he would other wise miss thats inportant, and, hea, better safe then sorry...

    Anyway, I personally understand both sides. Cats are nice because they are independent, and you don't have to worry about them as much, but dogs are nice because they give much more attention and love....

    and this is an intersting post, it went from a post about a bug on the website to a cats vs. dogs argument...
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    Saw this tonight from a little while ago on www.penny-arcade.com

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    dork.... you are such a dork, i still can't even begin to believe you posted this.

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    Heh, I post on the PA forums...

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    the world knew that dear, you didnt have to confirm it.

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