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Old May 29th, 2008, 05:03 AM
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Looking at the back wall of the stage, is that the outside wall of the building? And if it is how do you cross from one side to the other without being seen? Or do you have to make a false wall and loose some stage depth?

Yes the back wall is also the outside wall, the forgot about that when they where designing the theatre. i think we are going to make a false wall, but ya loose some stage depth.

Also are you controlling lights from the sound position in the middle of the theatre and if so have they left enough room? Also is the sound booth got lockable cabinets?
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i think, there will be enough room, the booth is 8' wide, i dont have size of the mixer yet. I dont know that but i think that we can get them if we want them.

Are they giving you a Cyc ?

yes, but there is a problem with it. right now it is on the last batten. but if we add a false wall then i foresee a problem.

Looking at the Leviton BOM you have put up is someone keeping an eye on the 6 Weeks for the Operation / Maintenance manual deadline so you have the manuals when you need them? Especially since you have to order them as they don't come with the gear.

simple answer yes

Reading the BOM it looks like you have 288 20A circuits but do you have to use some of these circuits for the House lights?

Yes and now the main house lights are on a dmx control rely ( there is 48 relies). There is going to be some down lights that are control via the dimmers.

Also does that BOM cover gear for the classrooms as well? Judging by the number of entry stations it does?
I have just been looking at info on Luma Edit system that sets up the entry stations for the lights. It looks quite flash. Do all the building lights run off the ie96 Dimmer banks?


No, the dimmers are just for the theatre, and the entry stations are just for the theatre. One interesting thing that they have done is put a 5 button stations on each cat walk, each electric, and i think that there is one on the loading bridge.

I am looking forward to seeing the specs for the sound system when you get it.

I don't know when i am going to get that but i know that we are using, Meyer sound

Who gets to go to Portland for the Hands On Training on 8700?

I dont know that i hope that they do use it.
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UPDATE

Well the bad/worries

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we are two weeks ahead of schedul, knock on wood.

Also this is a question for any one, how much power (amp wise) should be available at the company switch, this is what we have Company switches from Stagecraft Industries, Inc., but the 100 amp version?
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Um, about the sound system being meyer....if its the same system as the Blue Man Group LA (at the venetian), it's a D&B Audiotechnic sound system. I know because I prepped the B2 subs that went out on that install, and put together the amp racks. I worked for specialized audio visual inc. at the time the system was being installed (summer of 2007).
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Well, hmm i am going to have to check on that, i have not see any of the paper work for the audio system. So i will have to check.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Also, i got the name of the rigging company, "ProTech".
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Um, about the sound system being meyer....if its the same system as the Blue Man Group LA (at the venetian), it's a D&B Audiotechnic sound system. I know because I prepped the B2 subs that went out on that install, and put together the amp racks. I worked for specialized audio visual inc. at the time the system was being installed (summer of 2007).
Ok i got it checked out, we are going with D&B, but they did say that meyer is doing something for us, i dint know what yet. The array speaker are going in on Monday, i will post some pick, of them and the theatre.

Update on the company switches, we have three, a 100amp 3phase, a 200amp 3phase, 400amp 3 phase.
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Looking forward to the pics, enjoy your new sound system. Possibly some of the best gear I have ever heard. Wish it was mine
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ok the speaker are not going in till Friday now.
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So they finaly installed the speakers, they are TAN in color, umm ok, and they are mount to a maroon catwalk, and they wanted it to blined in.

Our first problem was found with the lighting system, the electrics on the catswalk are installed on the pipe closes to the floor. That was fix it was spec right just installed wrong.

Also, they do not have any data ports on the electrics, is that some thing that need to be fix, or can i live with out it.

I am liking the system we are getting a little more. But i am still alittle worried, even those i have been told dont worry about it at all, by the admins, "it is a top of the line system".

The fly system is the last thing to go in. ?? is what i am being told, Protech, is the one rigging out theatre, that is all i am going to say, if i say more it will have to be put in the "The punching Bag" fourm
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...Also, they do not have any data ports on the electrics. Is that something that needs to be fixed, or can I live with out it?
If it wasn't specified on the drawings, it's not a fix--it's a change order and out of the question, budget-wise. Yes, it would have been nice, but would have led to more DMX distribution which was probably "value-engineered" out of your system, if ever it was included. Do you have 208V, L6-20 outlets on the electrics for Moving Light power? Any 120V constant power or non-dim circuits?

Plan on purchasing at least one DMX iso-splitter and some 100' 5pin DMX cables, to run scrollers, gobo rotators, I-Cues, and other DMX "toys". Once the building is signed off and turned over, you can run the DMX along side the multi-cables feeding the electrics for a semi-permanent solution, or just drop the cable off the end of the pipe for more temporary uses.

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