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Double Check My Math? is being discussed in the ControlBooth Lighting and Electrics forum; I have a SR48 dimmer rack fed by a 200A disconnect . W=VA W=120*200 W=24,000 Assuming a 750 HPL Source ...

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    I have a SR48 dimmer rack fed by a 200A disconnect.

    W=VA
    W=120*200
    W=24,000

    Assuming a 750 HPL Source 4:

    24,000/750=32 instruments

    Is this correct?
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    Default Re: Double Check My Math?

    Is the 200A disconnect single-phase or three-phase? It's the difference between 24kW and 72kW. Is the 200A derated or faceplate?


    Incidentally, it's P=VI (neglecting power factor)
    where:
    P = power (W)
    V = voltage (V)
    I = current (A)

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    Default Re: Double Check My Math?

    Not quite. Chances are your 200A disconnect is actually three phase - so without complicating it too much, you actually get 200A * 3 phases = 600A of power to work with. So:

    W=120(200*3)
    W=120*600
    W=72,000

    72,000/750=96

    Hey, that number looks familiar!

    Hope that helps.
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    Default Re: Double Check My Math?

    No, there's more to it then that.

    First, single phase or 3 phase installation?

    If it's 3 phase (208Y/120), then you have 200A per leg, or 200A*208V*sqrt(3)=72kVA. This could also be looked at as 200A*120V*3=72kVA. (208V=120V*sqrt(3)) Assuming W=VA, 72kW/750W=96 fixtures.

    If it's single phase (240/120), then you still have 200A per leg, but you only have 2 legs. This would be 200A*120V*2=48kVA. Assuming W=VA, 48kW/750W=64 fixtures.

    Dang-nabbit, beat several times over.

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    Default Re: Double Check My Math?

    Quote Originally Posted by epimetheus View Post
    No, there's more to it then that.

    First, single phase or 3 phase installation?

    If it's 3 phase (208Y/120), then you have 200A per leg, or 200A*208V*sqrt(3)=72kVA. This could also be looked at as 200A*120V*3=72kVA. (208V=120V*sqrt(3)) Assuming W=VA, 72kW/750W=96 fixtures.

    If it's single phase (240/120), then you still have 200A per leg, but you only have 2 legs. This would be 200A*120V*2=48kVA. Assuming W=VA, 48kW/750W=64 fixtures.

    Dang-nabbit, beat several times over.
    Dang-nabbit you beat me to it!
    By the way you may notice that things work out to 12, 48, 64, 96, etc. (circuits/fixtures), this is not be accident! Things are worked out to come easily to these easy to work with.

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    Default Re: Double Check My Math?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottT View Post
    W=VA
    Although we all know what you were trying to say, watch out putting V and A together like that as VA is yet another term.
    see:
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochem View Post
    Not quite. Chances are your 200A disconnect is actually three phase - so without complicating it too much, you actually get 200A * 3 phases = 600A of power to work with. So:

    W=120(200*3)
    W=120*600
    W=72,000

    72,000/750=96

    Hey, that number looks familiar!

    Hope that helps.
    Excellent. I had asked my hum-head friend about this problem a few weeks ago and we assumed that it was 200 A total...

    The bad thing is that, the person who held my position before me had a Sensor Portable Pack installed on the catwalks because she assumed (incorrectly, like I did!) that our power was so severely limited. Anyone want to buy an empty Sensor Portable Pack?


    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Although we all know what you were trying to say, watch out putting V and A together like that as VA is yet another term.
    see:
    Watts the difference?
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right as always JD



    Thanks for all the help guys!
    ~Scott

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