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    Anyone know where there are charts that define the Rosco, GAM, Apollo, and Lee colors into RGB?

    I have found a source on line but it displays one gel color per page. I need to make a spreadsheet and the one per page is going to take forever.
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    Default re: Looking for (approx) RGB equivalents for Gel colors

    Rosco R27 = Primary Red, R91 = Primary Green, R80 = Primary Blue

    I don' know the other equivalents.
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    On derekleffew's website there is a reference chart that I have used before, it works rather well. Reference Documents
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    Default re: Looking for (approx) RGB equivalents for Gel colors

    Quote Originally Posted by JChenault View Post
    Anyone know where there are charts that define the Rosco, GAM, Apollo, and Lee colors into RGB?

    I have found a source on line but it displays one gel color per page. I need to make a spreadsheet and the one per page is going to take forever.
    The websites for all of these manufacturers have the RGB scales for all thier colors. If you're an IPhone user the Iswatch app is very handy for side by side comparisons.
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    Default re: Looking for (approx) RGB equivalents for Gel colors

    A long time ago, maybe 1992/93, I attempted to write a computer program to display gel colors to aid in selecting colors when designing shows. At the time, I called a few gel manufacturers and even talked to an engineer who explained Chromaticity to me. It ended up resulting in a fairly straight-forward math equation in my BASIC program and it had to do with colors changing based on intensity (and this being a way to overcome that factor). I wish I could remember it all, sadly I got side-tracked and never completed the program but I did have it working. I'm not sure if anyone has broken all the various gel colors down to RGB but at the time I was told that wasn't the way to go based on the fact intensity (and other factors) affected the final color. Understand Chromaticity and you'll be able to calculate colors at any intensity, or at least that's the conclusion I came to...

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    I would also recommend iSwatch. Both RGB and CMY values, along with some other fun stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bishopthomas View Post
    I would also recommend iSwatch. Both RGB and CMY values, along with some other fun stuff.
    Does anyone have a RGBA color conversion chart? All I see around the web are only RGB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kensmithld View Post
    Does anyone have a RGBA color conversion chart? All I see around the web are only RGB.
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    As a first approximation (which is all the charts are for anyway) set Amber to the same value as whichever is lower of Red and Green.

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    Why Hello Mike. Welcome to the Booth. Are you the Mike Wood from Mike Wood Consulting, or are there two sources of information in the Austin area going by that name these days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by porkchop View Post
    Why Hello Mike. Welcome to the Booth. Are you the Mike Wood from Mike Wood Consulting, or are there two sources of information in the Austin area going by that name these days?
    Yep, that's me.

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    Default Re: Looking for (approx) RGB equivalents for Gel colors

    Here's what I've commonly found, because all the fixtures that use RGB values come from so many different manufacturers, your values differ from fixture to fixture from manufacturer to manufacturer. Lets use an LED PAR for example. One manufacturer will produce a LED PAR that has a certain look for R @ 50 , G @ 36 , & B @ 72 (kind of a lavender, very pretty!) while another LED PAR that comes from another manufacturer has a slightly different look for those same values. Basically what that says is that the manufacturers who make your gels (rosco, lee, etc.), can give you the closest RGB values that will create that gel color, but it's simply impossible for them to compensate for the difference from fixture to fixture. My recommendation, use the values that they give you, but don't stop there. Manipulate them a little more to get the colors as close as possible. The iSwatch app is very good though.
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