Results 1 to 6 of 6
Lamp options for Major striplights is being discussed in the ControlBooth Lighting and Electrics forum; As a side job, I do lighting for a local church. Their space is very old, and uses 3 rows ...

  1. #1

    Aman121's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Occupation
    HS Student
    Posts
    314
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts

    Electric Lamp options for Major striplights

    As a side job, I do lighting for a local church. Their space is very old, and uses 3 rows of Major strip lights for main stage lighting, in addition to several flavors of pars, fresnels, and ancient elipsodials. The striplights take 100w long neck incandecant bulbs. As the availability of these is going to be questionable in the future, are there any other options for lamping? The lights are powered from an old autotransformer board, so issues with SCR dimmers are not present here. Does this open up other lamp options? Would it make more sense to procure more modern striplights that take halogen bulbs? There is limited budget, so we are looking to keep running as cheaply as possible for as long as possible. Any advice would be appreciated.
    PC fanboy since day one, dont even try
    Slightly cyncical, sometimes critical, always atypical.

  2. #2
    Senior Team  Premium Member 
    derekleffew's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV, USA
    Occupation
    Academician/Pedantist
    Posts
    5,456
    Thanks
    256
    Thanked 957 Times in 780 Posts

    Blog Entries
    4

    Default Re: Lamp options for Major striplights

    Quote Originally Posted by Aman121 View Post
    ...are there any other options for lamping? ...
    Not really. LED R20 retrofits are available, and the dimmable ones may work on a dimmer, autotransformer, but would not be cost-effective in fixtures (X-Rays) that should have been retired at least twenty years ago. Hoard Stock up on, as many 100W A21 long neck lamps as you can, and save your pennies for ColorBlaze72, Color Force Batten, or similar. And a new dimming system, that is if dimmers are still being made by the time you're ready to upgrade.
    Last edited by derekleffew; June 28th, 2012 at 01:05 AM.
    Good authors too who once knew better words, Now only use four letter words, Writing prose.

  3. #3
    Les
    Les is offline


    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    DFW, Tx.
    Occupation
    Live Events
    Posts
    2,715
    Thanks
    156
    Thanked 179 Times in 152 Posts

    Default Re: Lamp options for Major striplights

    You might be able to use long neck par 30 lamps, but you may lose intensity (and the aluminum reflector would go to "waste"). Also, I suspect the changeover would be expensive. It's an option I've been exploring as well since I also own about 42' of A-lamp striplight. I'm curious to see what everyone says!

    A small part of me is waiting on the development of A-lamp shaped LED's to reach a theatrically useful point. I feel like CFL's would still be problematic. The ventilation (or lack thereof) is one, and bumping them would still cause early failures (if they were bumped).

    Have you looked in to CCFL's (Cold Cathode Fluorescents)? I haven't really, but apparently they're immune to rapid cycling (flashing), and they are more dimmer friendly.
    Leslie (Les) Deal
    Licensed Pyrotechnician; SEO
    Illumination Fireworks, LLC.

    The views and opinions stated in this post don't necessarily reflect those of Illumination Fireworks, LLC.

  4. #4


    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Michigan
    Occupation
    Project Manager
    Posts
    167
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts

    Default Re: Lamp options for Major striplights

    I just ordered around 80 LED replacements for strip lights in a school. This was motivated by a desire to reduce power, since those strips are often kicked on for lectures and similar. They aren't amazing, but do a pretty good job in white. The red and blue rondels kill a lot of the output, and they don't dim well at less than 15%. 90% of the time, they'll do exactly what the school needs them for, and they have some assorted pars and fresnels for the low light and gel looks. All in all, it was a decent way to make use of the fixture that was already in place. Still cheaper than a Colorforce, but you get what you pay for...
    Project Manager - Fantasee Lighting
    www.fantaseelighting.com

  5. #5
     Premium Member 


    gafftapegreenia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Atlanta GA
    Occupation
    Assoc. Technical Director
    Posts
    3,267
    Thanks
    211
    Thanked 111 Times in 99 Posts

    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Lamp options for Major striplights

    There are some Halogen options on the market that may work, and we may see more as manufacturers start placing halogen capsules in A-lamp envelopes.

    Examples:Medium Base 120 Volt Halogen Light Bulbs | 1000Bulbs.com Medium Base Halogen Light Bulbs | 1000Bulbs.com

    However, these are still too short, and thus the addition of a medium screw base extender will be necessary.

    DO you dim the strip lights a lot of just use them at full? If there are white cells that get used a lot at full CFL's could be an option, although they likely won't make friends with your dimmers. So yeah, yur kinda stuck with incandescent.
    One must first know and understand the rules of theatre before one can break them.

  6. #6


    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    West Palm Beach, Florida, United St
    Occupation
    Lighting Designer
    Posts
    218
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts

    Default Re: Lamp options for Major striplights

    Find an online supplier for your current lamps - I'm sure a factory in China will continue to pump them out in some form. Compare bulk costs of your lamps, shipping, and how often you'll be replacing them. Consider man hours for restructuring or retrofitting the current fixtures with a new socket for a new lamp style. Then look at the price of led strips, consider the long term benefits, and present it to the group. Churches traditionally don't have money for gear, but if you are able to purchase low-cost (low-power) led's as a replacement, then the church won't be stuck with purchasing lamp replacements down the road. My advice on LED's - try to buy them from the same batch - often times the led's can vary in color if they are produced at different factories or in different time frames.

    I rather enjoy colorblazes, but there are many, many low cost options out there. I'm sure there are a few dealers floating around this forum, too.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •