Conventional Fixtures - Lycian 1209HP Won't Strike.. Help!

[rosebudld]

Hey all, just getting ready to dive into my newly acquired Lycian 1209 HP follow spots that have MSR 575 HR bulbs because one of them won't strike.

Am I right in thinking it's the capacitor that could be blown?

The fans all come on, so I'm going to check to see if they've got a separate power supply from the lamp; but these spots usually begin to strike as soon as the power is turned on. Any advice would be appreciated..

Thanks as always for your time and assistance (btw I suck at the search function and didn't come up with a good answer there which is why I'm posting..)

-M

Doing some research.. I believe those models have an ignitor module that will need replaced..

Purchase History: Got them used from a production company.. so they're not new.. did replace the previously used bulb w/ a new one.. same result no strike.. will try with another bulb as that's a fine point about bulbs being D.O.A. but no warranty as such..

[Sony]

Are you sure it's not just the lamp is burnt out or bad? That would be my first guess...especially considering that you said "newly acquired" which makes me think they are new to you...but you got them used. The lamp could have been damaged in transit if they came already installed from the previous place. It could also just be a bum lamp you put in there, they are rare, but they do occur.

If the spots themselves are brand new, and a new lamp doesn't work then I would suggest getting someone from the company to come out and fix it under warranty before you go diving into it. They would know what they are doing and would most likely fix it for free since it's still under warranty.

[JD]

The Lycian, like the old Altman Satellites, uses a magnetic ballast and an "Igniter" module. This module produces a 30kv kick voltage to start the lamp. You can hear a sizzle as the igniter module fires, usually for less then one second after you hit the switch. If you don't hear this noise, yet the fans start up, there are three possible solutions that come to mind. A thermal switch thinks the unit is overheated, the igniter is bad, or the lamp is defective. If you do hear the noise, then the lamp is bad. This assumes that one of the lead wires has not become disconnected from the lamp base or the module. (very rare.) Good luck!

Although caps can and do fail, it's not that common. If you meter a cap (make sure there is no charge on it!!!) it will read as open circuit even when good.

[Gretsch]

Also make sure that you are turning it on with the access panel closed, there is an "idiot switch" that disables the lamp if the panel is off. My guess is either a bad lamp or bad voltage booster.

[koimystic]

You can test the bulb by getting a volt meter and switching it to the Ohms meter part, then touch the terminals of the bulb to each probe thing. If the ohms stay the same, the bulb is dead. If it goes down to 0 (having no resitance) it is still good. Someone correct me if I have this wrong or reversed.

[derekleffew]

Originally Posted by koimystic

You can test the bulb... Someone correct me if I have this wrong or reversed.

First, it's a lamp, not a bulb. Bulbs are planted in the ground to grow tulips and daffodils. Second, a continuity test only works with incandescent lamps. In this case, we're discussing arc lamps, which will always show infinite resistance unless enough current is applied to make the electrons jump the spark gap between anode and cathode.

[rosebudld]

JD sent me a PM, and I believe it is the igniter.. luckily it's my fourth spot so I'm ok for awhile.. it doesn't make the characteristic buzz yet the fans still come on and I've tried switching out first lamp and two other new lamps so unless the one lamp died and the other two were D.O.A. that isn't the problem.. Thanks to all for the advice.. I'm in the middle of a mad December stretch and have low brain functions right now.. like you come in the door thinking you're doing one thing and meet yourself going doing something else..

[WesternTD]

I'm having a problem with one of these also. What if the unit is getting power, the lamp is new and ok, but it won't strike and the fans won't kick on. I'm beginning to think it is one of the 2 microswitches that disable striking when the lamp housing is open?? It seems one may be bad. Anyone have experience with this, or know where to find a service manual for the Lycian Midget 1209HP?

[JD]

If the fans are not running then it is probably one of your safety switches. I am very hesitant to give any further advice as the igniter produces a 30kv kick to get the bulb started and I don't want you dead!

Check this out- With the power plug removed, you should be able to hear an audible click of the switch as you move the bulb tray in and out. Sometimes, these switches get bent up and don't click. There are only a few items wired on the primary (in series) that would cause this. The power switch, the fuse, the safety switch(s) and a thermal cut-out. Of course, a bad plug or line cable would cause this too

Someone probably has the link for the manual and can post it. (I am at work and don't have the file.)

[panandtilt]

We have a number of these in rental inventory.
A majority of the issues we have had have been with the igniters and power switches failing.
Capacitors rarely go bad and they will usually show signs of "bulging" at one end when defective.