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Old November 3rd, 2009, 09:32 AM

 
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You put whatever on a stand as long as you don't exceed the weight rating. Also, remember to keep the weight balanced. We used a couple of Applied stands that have what we call moose antlers to carry truss. We built a cross bar that replaces the moose antlers and allows us to mount lights at the tree only. If you do this make sure it is done by a certified welder.
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What BillESC fails to mention is the Genie ST-25 weighs 555 pounds. Not something easily tossed into the back of a minivan.

jmac, this might suit your application.


ETC SmartStand

However, for theatre purposes, very few items rival the standard 50# boom base and 1/5" pipe.
Thanks, Derek. Yes, the Genie looks to be quite manly, a real brute. Hadn't seen the ETC Smart Stand before. It looks similar to the Global Truss ST132 which started this thread. However, the ETC version appears to cost 3x the GTruss...

I do like the solidness of the basic boom base and 1.5" pipe, but the crank stands do pack up nicer, and have adapters for truss which gives them another possible use, for little concerts, etc.

Does anyone have experience with four S4's on one of the crank stands??
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We have the Global ST 132 stands in our rental department (as well as the Genies,) and there is an available 2" x 4' T Bar. You can hang 8 S4's on the T Bar all day long.
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We have the Global ST 132 stands in our rental department (as well as the Genies,) and there is an available 2" x 4' T Bar. You can hang 8 S4's on the T Bar all day long.
Is that a special bar, or the standard Global bar? The standard bar (1-3/8"?) looks like you can only hang four, or are you top hanging too? Do you bolt the yokes to the bar, or use C-clamps? Use sandbags?
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if the T Bars are the ones from Global Truss their collar fits over the top of the stand and there is a wing nut that locks it to the stand. I both over and under mount fixtures on these making sure it is balanced and I always put the lightest fixtures on top. These stands carry a higher weight rating than many other manufacturers for this type of stand. The stands are pretty substantial and have safety interlocks built in. The global truss T bars I have are made from square steel tube so I do not use c-clamps with these T bars. these T Bars came with the stands as a special promotion Global Truss was doing so I do not know if these are the regular T bars they supply.

In general when using T Bars I do not use Clamps simply because they add unecessary weight, the less weight I put at the top of the stand the better. This is not because I am worried about the stand being able to lift the weight it is just I prefer to minimise the weight I put in the air. This is my standard practice even when using fixed hanging points or flown pipes.

I get quite annoyed when people just keep adding things to the rig and leaving it there as a convenient storage because you can eventually exceed your load ratings without even thinking about it: a couple of fixtures here, extra cable there and so it goes on. Just my standard practice - each to his own.
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Does anyone have experience with four S4's on one of the crank stands??
Applied sells a couple t-bars that fit their crank stands. One is a 1" square, and the other is a 2" round pipe. Can't remember how long they are. Applied also sells a claw adapter so that you can use your own pipe.

I'm sure other mfg. have similar accessories.
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I'm in a similar boat, but just want to mount one Altman 360 on such a stand. I'd rather not use a t-bar since that puts the weight off-center. Is there some sort of clamp that would let me rooster the fixture?
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I'm in a similar boat, but just want to mount one Altman 360 on such a stand. I'd rather not use a t-bar since that puts the weight off-center. Is there some sort of clamp that would let me rooster the fixture?
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A trip to your local plumbing supply can remedy your problem.

Buy:

1 - 6" pipe nipple (of a diameter that will fit inside the center mast of your stand.)
1 - pipe end cap

Drill a 1/2" hole in the center of the pipe cap and bolt it to the yoke of your fixture. Screw the pipe nipple into the cap. Slide the pipe into the mast of your stand. Walla! Fixture centered over the stand.
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Is that a special bar, or the standard Global bar? The standard bar (1-3/8"?) looks like you can only hang four, or are you top hanging too? Do you bolt the yokes to the bar, or use C-clamps? Use sandbags?
Global's standard T Bar is square tubing. They do however offer a 2" diameter round tube x 4' T Bar as an extra cost option. Part # GT-LB132
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