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Old September 9th, 2009, 01:01 AM
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Default Programming Movers or Am I doing this right?

I have an Innovator. It's all I have right now and I won't be buying or renting anything else until the new black box is built in a year or so.
I am programming four ADJ LED PARs (they're being used for color on four pieces of scaffolding so the throw isn't a problem), a Studio Color and two Studio Spots into our production of Blood Brothers. I have programmed the LED's into cues successfully before, but they don't move so I'm finding that I have to approach cuing differently and it's not always working like I planned...
I spent several hours Monday programming cues. Here's my process. I set all the conventionals using channel faders. I set the movers using the device screen, wheels and trackball. I record the cue. At the end of the scene, I crossfade to the next scene taking the dimmer channels on the movers to 0. At the end of this scene, the movers go to their next positions and make changes to color, pattern, etc. during the crossfade. When the next mover cue comes up, I bring up the dimmer channels. Lather, rinse, repeat. At the end of my programming session, everything worked as planned.
Today, I go in and in the first mover cue, the Studio Color behaved as programmed. The dimmer channel on the Spots came up, but they were pointed straight down with no color. I went into the device screen and manually moved each one then cancelled out of the device screen and went back a cue. When I hit go, the Spots came up and moved to their programmed positions and color.
Is this a problem with my programming method? Do the Spots need to be "wakened" before they will respond to cues? Is this just a quirk of the Innovator that I will come to know and dread?
I have a couple of weeks before we open, so I have time to learn and fix. Thanks in advance!
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Default Re: Programming Movers or Am I doing this right?

Disclaimer: I'm pretty new to programming movers myself.

That said, do you have cues setup, or some other method, for properly powering on the fixtures? My limited exposure has been with Mac500's, and with those you have to set a lamp on signal on the control channel. From the Studio Spot and Color manuals, they have a similar process, as I'm sure all discharge-based fixtures do.
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I don't know anything about your console make sure you are in tracking mode and record your moving lights into palettes and record the cue from there also try using mark cues
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Do you initialize your movers with a locate command first thing before any cues (or in your first cue) to wake them up, strike them and move them to home position?

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Thanks to all for the replies and a special thanks to tcahall. You reminded me to not only check the first cue but every cue before a mover cue.
The problem was, of course a PEBKAC error. I can't program as fast as I usually do and I have to be very conscious of where the movers are when I make minor changes to a cue during rehearsal. I only repeat a couple of looks and I only have three movers so it doesn't really seem worth the time to set up groups. If I'm wrong, please set me straight. As I said, I'm a newbie at programming lights that move.
At any rate, the first act is programmed and saved. I ran it three times, then shut it all down and went to dinner. Two hours later I fired it up and ran it twice with no problems. I think I'm going to be OK, but I'll take any hints or tips!
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