Go Back   ControlBooth > CB Discussions > Lighting
 
    Advanced Search

Notices

Lighting For any discussions related to lighting


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old October 31st, 2009, 02:42 PM

 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 110
Thanks: 8
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default 575W & 750W Source 4

What is the difference between the two (besides the nameplate sticker)? Is it just the cap and lamp socket, or are the housing and lens tube also different? I have some lens tubes that say "Rev. G", and some that are blank. Are there big differences between generations of lens tubes? Are these ok with 750's? Thanks.
Reply With Quote
Old October 31st, 2009, 03:37 PM
icewolf08's Avatar
CBmod
 Premium Member 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 3,103
Thanks: 21
Thanked 150 Times in 134 Posts
Send a message via AIM to icewolf08 Send a message via MSN to icewolf08 Send a message via Yahoo to icewolf08 Send a message via Skype™ to icewolf08
Default Re: 575W & 750W Source 4

The guts of the fixture are the same. The early 575W fixtures cannot natively accept a 750W lamp. However, you can get the retrofit kits and install them (along with a new lamp base) and then there is no reason that you can't use 750W lamps in them. The Rev.G lenses i believe are the newest revision, but there is no reason that you can't use an older lens in a newer fixture and vise-versa.
__________________
Alex Weisman
Master Electrician - Pioneer Theatre Company
IceWolf Photography
[email address]

Soup or art?

"Crap happens, it is our job as technicians to fix the problem and see if it can be avoided. That does not mean yelling at actors or other crew people. We make mistakes, that is life. Welcome to live theatre, if it were the same every night it would be TV." ~Me

Love CB? Upgrade to premium today!
Reply With Quote
Old November 2nd, 2009, 12:39 AM

 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 27
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: 575W & 750W Source 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by icewolf08 View Post
The guts of the fixture are the same. The early 575W fixtures cannot natively accept a 750W lamp. However, you can get the retrofit kits and install them (along with a new lamp base) and then there is no reason that you can't use 750W lamps in them. The Rev.G lenses i believe are the newest revision, but there is no reason that you can't use an older lens in a newer fixture and vise-versa.
Icewolf is correct.
Reply With Quote
Old November 2nd, 2009, 06:56 AM
jmabray's Avatar
 Premium Member 

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 441
Thanks: 0
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Default Re: 575W & 750W Source 4

Usually the difference between the rev's is some small manufacturing change. nothing that would affect fixture performance, just something that might make it easier to manufacture.

I believe that the main differences between the original 575 watt and newer 750 watt fixtures are a) the ability to actually accept the 750 watt lamp (with the third pin) and b) the rating of the wire running from the cap to the connector.
__________________
Time Flies like an arrow.
Fruit Flies like a bananas.

The opinion's expressed here are mine, all mine. You can share them if you like, but they don't necessarily reflect the opinions of my employer or any manufacturer my employer may represent.
Reply With Quote
Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:46 PM
Senior Team
 Premium Member 
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 4,419
Thanks: 5
Thanked 81 Times in 66 Posts
Default Re: 575W & 750W Source 4

When the origional 575w S-4 Leko came out it had some alignment keyways sticking up which needed to be ground away to accept the cap of the 750w cap.

A week ago I was working on some City Theatrical S-4 follow spot fixtures that never got upgraded and made the mistake (wifie yelled about in now being useless as a pineapple now needing to replace) taking away both the four keyways and the coaxial alignment slots. Give me a break... been like ten years since the last time I did the upgrade and I was only helping more efficiently remove what one of her kids was in my area attempting to remove - already cut half way thru the thing in her not telling him sufficient that he would understand what to remove of them keyways...


Remove in grinding down the four little keyways at four out of six points on a clock and leave alone the 3:00 and 9:00 wider ones.

Beyond that the only major difference between a 575w and 750w fixture beyond the holes for the 750w lamp is in the lamp cap to the fixture. The 575w fixture will be wired with 18ga. and the 750w fixture is wired with 16ga wire. At no point unless the wire feeding the fixture is changed should you remove that pin on the lamp and even than that's bad practice to remove the little roll pin on the lamp as you never know after that what fixture such a lamp will show up in.

Can modify the body of the fixture but often cheaper and easier to replace the entire cap assembly.
Reply With Quote
Old November 2nd, 2009, 10:52 PM

 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 110
Thanks: 8
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: 575W & 750W Source 4

Thanks all, for confirming the differences.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
575w, 750w, source 4

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Source Four Followspot hhslights Lighting 13 November 13th, 2009 04:50 PM
Lamp Questions ship Lighting 57 August 4th, 2009 08:14 AM
Conventional Fixtures - 750W lamp in a 575W Source 4? malex Lighting 20 October 29th, 2008 09:40 PM
FEL and FLK propmonkey Lighting 17 January 9th, 2007 02:31 AM
ETC Source Four Socket Problem jbsue Lighting 9 May 7th, 2006 09:31 PM


All times are UTC -4. The time now is 05:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.1 
Advertisement System V2.6 By   Branden

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80