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Old November 15th, 2005, 10:08 AM

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this crossed my mind when i woke up today. when putting a gel and a frost in a fixture what goes towards the lense first?

is it gel/frost/lense or forst/gel/lense

or does this even matter?
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I've always done it gel/frost/lense.
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i dont think it matters. if you have written on either cut with a china marker, make sure the mark isn't touching the other cut, i've noticed that then tend to melt togeather.
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i dont think it matters much, but i do it "lense, frost, gel" because i rather the frost melt before the gel if either of them are going to. and while the frost is important, i dont want a large white spot in the middle of say a blue.
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I think moojoe makes a good point that its better to have slightly unfrosted blue light than frosted white light in the middle of blue. WHen you think about it for the order however. In one your making light blue and then frosted only that wavelength or your frosting everything and then only allowing the blue to pass through. It may not be noticable to the eye and therefor not matter, but would the blue on the outside of the front have a stronger color because the frost isn't taking anything away from the desired wavelength?

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That's a interesting theory and about the best excuse in additon to labeling in seeing what color it is as opposed to what frost it is I have ever heard.

IN the past I have always done frost away from the lens. I might think of switching now.
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Ha ha thank you ... I hope you were talking about my comment or I'll feel very stupid right now. Lol.

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egg on you to some extent. I was writing about the theory in general of melting gels and which melts first. Given a 1/4" space between gels this concept might work.
If of help, your point is as confused as probably moot as would be which gel melts first if right next to each other.

On the other hand peraps not. Never noted grease pencil writings sticking together, much less by all concepts, whic side do you place outboard - the reflective or frosted side of the gel given it now matters?

In the past I have always been instructed gel first than frost. This more so one can focus the light than while cleaning up it's beam add frost. Otherwise in general, the frost second and when possible in a seperate frame. Never given a reason for this policy however and it might have a rational behind it.

I kind of like the concept of seeing the color even what color it is in blue over that of seeing all the lights above some coloring of white frost. This I think is the best idea.

Perhaps someone should E-Mail Rosco/Lee/Gam with this question.
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This may sound dumb... But i would put the frost first so that the gel is away from the lense, so that I could see which gel I had in which light.
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