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Old November 29th, 2005, 09:39 PM

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Have any of you tried using pipes to distribute your haze?

We have 1 Martin Jem ZR24/7 hazer, puts out alot of haze, but we only have one. The smoke would billow in from one side of the stage, blow around, and would never really distribute.

So, I went and bought 72 feet of 4" black PVC pipe, capped one end, and attached the hazer to the other. I drilled 1.5" holes (2 per 8ft section of pipe). Not only is there an evan distrubtion from left to right, but the haze itself is much thinner & nicer.

I think even if I had 1 hazer per side, I would still distribute it through pipes. If anyone wants before/after pics, or a diagram of exactly what we did, let me know!
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Wow thats a pretty cool idea. We don't actually have a hazer but we've had the same problem with getting a fog machine to spread out the fog everywhere. If we ever have to do it again this seems like it would be a great idea. Awesome thinking.

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Its a cool idea not really practical for the touring world. If you have the problem again and you dont have time to hook up pipes and such a well placed fan infront of the hazer will do the trick.

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ps would like to see some pics of it in action.
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for my last show, I did almost the same thing for a fog machine, but i had the pipe loop back 15 feet up stage to get coverage over the entire stage. i then put small fans inside the pipe to distribute the fog evenly.
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You generally dont want fans in the path of your smoke/haze. You are better off putting the fans BEHIND the machine blowing air over it and into the fog / haze. That way you dont gum up your fan and condense the fog / haze out of the air. For inline bosts, put a Y piece in your pipe, with the fog coming in one branch and the fan blowing air in the other, with them both going out of the single end. Also, I have had great luck with scrap pieces of ventelation ductwork being used as smoke directors / transport, as another option instead of pipe.
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Well peter you better tell that to the concert industry and lematrie because we have been putting fans infront of our hazers for years. and now lematrie has simplified this for us by inventing a hazer with a builtin fan infront of the out put to distribute it.


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Interesting... If it works, do it I guess.. I have come very close to ruining one fan doing this and then read a bunch of different places arround the internet not to do it. Maybe this is more of a problem with fog then Haze.
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Yeah, I didn't have to use any additional fans, the JemZR24/7 has a very powerful built in fan... it's an awsome hazer, puts out an incredible amount!

We tried just using a fan to blow it across the stage, but then we got the "fast moving column of smoke" look.

This was definetly the best option.
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COrrection, using the pipe to distrubite it was definetly the best option.
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I have to agree with Peter on fans behind the machine. Less maintenance at the shop after. I've never run haze through a distro system, but I've done it lots with fog.

And if you have a portable stage (risers) you can put the machine under the stage and let it seep up through the seams.
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