Behrenger LC2412 Tutorial?

[chuckpuckett]

I have purchased the LC2412, I'm using it for a "show on the road", a small play we're putting on in a coffee shop (!) - [not as bad as it sounds, it's a pretty decent sized venue, but have to import the lights... well, for that matter, have to create wingspace, etc... Oh, well, that which does not kill me, and all that.]
Anyway, I confess: the User's Manual is definitely obtuse (to put it mildly). Can anyone point me to a tutorial for using this board to (just) set up a few lighting presets, and some fade times? I'd much appreciate it.
Thanks.
Chuck Puckett
www.puckettpublishing.com
"I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for awhile."

[tmc4242]

I just bought one of these boards and could use a more lucid tutorial than the manual also. Pointers to one would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Todd

[NickJones]

This could be long.....
This is a standard manual, and I have no idea what concepts you are both familiar with.
Lets ignore the setup as I assume if you are opping for this show you will have some idea of how everything is set up, or it is set up for you, so lets go with preset mode...

Press Up until the (little) screen shows the letter P, it will flash for a few seconds then stay on the letter P now your console is in preset mode, the simplest form of light control.

Now your lighting console is slit in two, the top half and the bottom half of that big row of faders. This is known as bank A (top row of faders) & bank B (bottom row of sliders).
Now to bring up the masters, you have 3 masters, the Grand Master, this controls everything, and bringing that down to 0% will bring your whole rig down to 0%. So make sure that is up to 100%. Now to the right of that are two faders labeled A & B, if you set up a "look" on preset A (The top bunch of faders) and bring the fader marked A near the Grand Master up, this will bring up the lights you selected on preset A, and if you set up a look on the bottom (B) and bring down A master, then bring up B master, the lights will change. This is the simplest form of control.

Chuck wanted fade times, you can control them with your finger. the faster you push up the fader, the faster the lights go up.

Hope I cleared some stuff up, if you want to know how to set it up, and stuff like that, I can explain that.

Nick

[NickJones]

Oh and well done for searching not just starting a new thread!

[David Ashton]

I have to admit that after 40 years of operating hundreds of desks this is my one failure, the advert says its control is intuitive, but what it is intuitive to, god only knows.I think a post graduate course needs to be started to use these wretched things, I sold the one I bought on Ebay and stated it was the worst desk I had ever used and I was selling it as is, but the buyer still left negative feedback.
If anyone is thinking of buying one of these be sure to try before you buy, don't buy off the sales pitch.

[Les]

Negative feedback because he didn't like the way the desk worked? Geez... Seller beware I guess!

[soundlight]

I have never used one of these myself, but every single person that I've talked to that has (which is a good number) hates it with a firey passion. People have asked me for help on it more than once, and it got to the point where I just kinda said "sorry, you have a non-functioning piece of equipment".

Replace with a Chauvet Stage Designer 50. You can even do the equivalent of stepping through a cue list on each of the bottom row of faders with that thing. I am continuously surprised by the nice features that Chauvet's chinese supplier packed in to this board. Nothing like a real console, but for a small rig, it'll do the trick.

[tmc4242]

It all started making sense about 0500 this morning. The board is a fairly sophisticated device and it took a bit to get it into a usable state.

I had started out attempting to get sound to light to work. Looked easy. Not so much.

To use that feature one first has to assign DMX channels to sliders. Then set up memories 9-12 for the scene ( or submaster as someone else here called them ) that will represent each frequency range. Each of these operations is actually rather intuitive - once you know you need to look for them.

Once that's done, plug in some audio and turn on sound-to-light. Works like a charm.

I still have a lot to learn about it, but I'm in good shape for this weekend. I'm taking lights to a sci-fi con in Houston and what we'll need is pretty basic.

[David Ashton]

"Each of these operations is actually rather intuitive - once you know you need to look for them".
So is Quantam theory, how long did it take to "intuitively" work this very basic desk?

[tmc4242]

Originally Posted by David Ashton

"Each of these operations is actually rather intuitive - once you know you need to look for them".
So is Quantam theory, how long did it take to "intuitively" work this very basic desk?

As it happens I do have a couple of physics degrees.

Quantum aside though, one night of hacking. It's an odd paradigm they chose, but like quantum, once you see it, it does make a fair amount of sense. Very step by step methodical.