Go Back   ControlBooth > CB Discussions > Lighting
 
    Advanced Search

Notices

Lighting For any discussions related to lighting


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old January 30th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Schniapereli's Avatar

 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 321
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Default What the heck is this thing?/Parellipse Question

I found a full box of this thing and I have no idea what it is. I do not have a digital camera, but I did my best to draw it on Paint.

It's just a lens behind a donut, which can be fastened to something by tightening the rubber and metal layes around it. (sandwich around what you want to clamp it to.)

It doesn't fit any of our fixtures, but I found a peice of one next to where we used to keep some parellipses.

I will try to get a digital picture.

But, what the heck is it called? What does it do? When do you use it?


Also, what was a parellipse used for? Do they still use them sometimes today? When would you use one? (is that the right spelling?)

If you know anything else about either, then please share.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Lens thingy.jpg (12.1 KB, 145 views)
Reply With Quote
Old January 31st, 2007, 12:36 AM
Van's Avatar
Van Van is offline
CBmod
 Premium Member 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Portland, Or.
Posts: 3,828
Thanks: 44
Thanked 150 Times in 145 Posts
Blog Entries: 3
Default Re: What the heck is this thing?/Parellipse Question

Hmm Can't be exactly sure. ok i'm sort of guessing. Possibly a degree changing lens for the paralipsphere ? I'mnot sure. Nice drawing though. As for thier original use Paralipspheres were an alternative to a Leko-lite, and were used the same way. I believe there are still a few left in the 2 world trade center theatre here in portland. I worked in that theatre for 7 years and we about 20 something para's < I Aint gonna keep typing it > we used them on evry show. They're not the greatest in the world but they work.
I can't say I ever saw that particular attachment however.
__________________
Van J. McQueen
Technical Director
Artists Repertory Theatre


Some people are like Slinkies...
Not really good for anything,
But they still bring a smile to your face.........
When you push them down a flight of stairs.....
Reply With Quote
Old January 31st, 2007, 12:52 AM
Senior Team
 Premium Member 
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Illinois
Posts: 4,419
Thanks: 5
Thanked 81 Times in 66 Posts
Default Re: What the heck is this thing?/Parellipse Question

Never heard of that term before.

My rough guess, if these are anything like a Bantam Superspot, could be part of a slide projector lens adaptor. Just a guess.
Reply With Quote
Old January 31st, 2007, 01:16 AM
Schniapereli's Avatar

 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 321
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Default Re: What the heck is this thing?/Parellipse Question

...I always call them parellipses... I can never remember their real name.

I'm not sure if it was for one of the PS's, but that's what I'm assuming since I know almost nothing about them. I cannot find anything on the internet.
(the only results are to this site.)
Reply With Quote
Old January 31st, 2007, 01:54 AM
gafftaper's Avatar
Senior Team
 Premium Member 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Seattle, Washington
Posts: 6,649
Thanks: 46
Thanked 231 Times in 191 Posts
Blog Entries: 6
Default Re: What the heck is this thing?/Parellipse Question

WOW you stumped Van AND Ship!!! I didn't think that was possible.
__________________
Community College Technical Director
Reply With Quote
Old January 31st, 2007, 10:53 AM
dbn dbn is offline

 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Derry, NH, USA
Posts: 22
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: What the heck is this thing?/Parellipse Question

I'm guessing, too, but it looks like Van may be right. These look like they may be lenses that were intended to mount inside the barrel of an instrument via a narrow slot and slide back and forth for variable focus or zoom. The rubber layers and the tightening wing-nut look like they would accomodate holding the lens assembly stable within the barrel, by means of the slot. Or maybe it was a fixed position, rather than a slot. No way of telling, really.

I've never come across anything like this in my travels. Thanks for posting this. It has high entertainment value. :-)
__________________
Dave Nelson
Technical Director
Adams Memorial Opera House
Derry, NH, USA
Reply With Quote
Old January 31st, 2007, 01:44 PM
Van's Avatar
Van Van is offline
CBmod
 Premium Member 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Portland, Or.
Posts: 3,828
Thanks: 44
Thanked 150 Times in 145 Posts
Blog Entries: 3
Default Re: What the heck is this thing?/Parellipse Question

P.S. If I can get over to the world trade center I'll shoot a picture of some para-lipse-sphere's < god what a stupid name for a fixture>
__________________
Van J. McQueen
Technical Director
Artists Repertory Theatre


Some people are like Slinkies...
Not really good for anything,
But they still bring a smile to your face.........
When you push them down a flight of stairs.....
Reply With Quote
Old January 31st, 2007, 06:15 PM
Schniapereli's Avatar

 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 321
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Default Re: What the heck is this thing?/Parellipse Question

We have some old Paralipspheres, but they are broken, and do not seem to have a lamp bases, or a place to put them...

For others who are curious to know more about them, I have found this so far on the internet.

"The Paralipsphere is a further improvement of the ERS. It replaces the portion of the Ellipsoid behind the bulb with a parabolic reflector focused on the filament, and additionally replaces the portion of the Ellipsoid immediately surrounding the aperture with a spherical reflector focused on the bulb. Para(bola)+(El)lip(soidal)+Sphere = Paralipsphere. From a lighting design point of view, Paralipsphere's are merely a more efficient ERS, but from a technical point of view they are an interesting and significant variation."

...and that's about it.

I am going to stay after school one of these days (when I don't have too much homework) and I'm going to try putting the lense thingy in different fixtures, (hopefully, also take some pictures) and then report back to ya'll.
Reply With Quote
Old January 31st, 2007, 07:09 PM
Van's Avatar
Van Van is offline
CBmod
 Premium Member 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Portland, Or.
Posts: 3,828
Thanks: 44
Thanked 150 Times in 145 Posts
Blog Entries: 3
Default Re: What the heck is this thing?/Parellipse Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schniapereli View Post
"The Paralipsphere is a further improvement of the ERS. It replaces the portion of the Ellipsoid behind the bulb with a parabolic reflector focused on the filament, and additionally replaces the portion of the Ellipsoid immediately surrounding the aperture with a spherical reflector focused on the bulb. Para(bola)+(El)lip(soidal)+Sphere = Paralipsphere. From a lighting design point of view, Paralipsphere's are merely a more efficient ERS, but from a technical point of view they are an interesting and significant variation."

Hmm I don't know if I would call them an "Improvement" but they were definately different. Wow I tried like crazy and could find anything on the internet. I bow to your superior Google-ing skills.
__________________
Van J. McQueen
Technical Director
Artists Repertory Theatre


Some people are like Slinkies...
Not really good for anything,
But they still bring a smile to your face.........
When you push them down a flight of stairs.....
Reply With Quote
Old January 31st, 2007, 08:36 PM
Footer's Avatar
Senior Team
 Premium Member 
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Saratoga Springs, NY
Posts: 3,752
Thanks: 1
Thanked 134 Times in 129 Posts
Default Re: What the heck is this thing?/Parellipse Question

Heres some info on the 7367A Parellipisphere that I pulled of Wyg (and from what I could remember about them from using them 8 or so years ago). It was made by Electro Controls, is a zoom fixture (19 to 33 degs) though if I remember the zoom was a very loose term. Strangely they look very similar to the source4 zoom. But yes, the folks at cast got a hold of one and took the time to test it and get it into wyg.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
heck, question, thing or parellipse

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Colortran Programing Question jyenish Lighting 1 March 26th, 2006 03:55 AM
A dumb question. AVGuyAndy Lighting 4 February 20th, 2006 10:24 AM
Par Can Question ewards71 Lighting 21 September 13th, 2005 01:09 AM


All times are UTC -4. The time now is 06:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.1 
Advertisement System V2.6 By   Branden

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80