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Old May 14th, 2007, 02:17 AM

 
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Here is an interesting article i found today. Am i wrong in thinking that this would include bulbs used in lighting instruments, HPL, FEL, etc, etc.

Just curious what you all think about it.

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Old May 14th, 2007, 02:28 AM
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There have been two good threads discussing some of these issues recently. Check out the two below...

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Well since "technically" we use lamps I think we would be ok...


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There have been two good threads discussing some of these issues recently. Check out the two below...

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Those are pretty interesting articles. I'm curious to hear what happens once the movie studios catch wind of this latest greenhouse measure.
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I think by the time things actually start coming close to happening LED lighting will have taken some drastic steps to have a bright fixture...

This might end up happening a little faster if they actually go through with it (and expect a slow down in movies or a lot of movies that take place in other countries to come out)
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Gee, without incandescent lamps, how can we make performers sweat? Anyhow, I wonder how much of our nation's energy is really used for the theater and traveling rock shows? Come to think of it, most rock shows are pretty much HID already. Still, I would think that compared to home use, theater is only a fraction of a percent. (the ratio of homes to theaters.) I would expect there will be exemptions for theater. The bigger threat comes from the bulb manufacturers themselves who may decide to "go green" and discontinue production of incandescents. That ratio cuts both ways... How big a percentage is the sale of incandescent theatrical bulbs to the manufacturer? Still, I will miss the old PAR bulb and his friends. They served us well.
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But the problem is that in-home lighting doesn't require 750w lamps... people get by with less than 1/10th of that. LED Lighting is already that large of output, not really cheap yet but the price will come down as more people are making lights. As of now the price of LED to amount of light emitted, and the price of Incandescent to light emitted is getting close... however the problem is the number of LEDs that it would take to get the same amount of light emitted from LEDs as say a 750w lamp would take up more room than a 750w lamp and all fixtures would need to be replaced or have major modifications.
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First of all, the bill in California is being introduced only to apply to strictly incadescents- not halogen lamps.

Second, there is a problem as people shift to lighting their common places with LED's. LED's are so powerful with so little energy because they only emit a very specific wavelength of light. When people are starting to light their entire houses and workplaces with them they are noticing eye problems are becoming more frequent.

For now, florscents are the answer.
Entertainment can still have it's halogens, but it's finally time to kick those old mongul based scoops.
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First of all, the bill in California is being introduced only to apply to strictly incadescents- not halogen lamps.
Halogen lamps, like the ones we use in theatre are incandescent lamps. So any action that applies to incandescent lamps would, by definition, include halogen lamps.

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China built the Great Wall to keep the monguls (I know, I spelled that wrong on purpose), obviously there are a few scoops we are still trying to fight off...
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First of all, the bill in California is being introduced only to apply to strictly incadescents- not halogen lamps.
Lamp lesson time!!

The short definition of incandescent lighting is that you create light by running a bunch of electricity through a wire which then glows. If there's a glowing wire... it's incandescent.

Halogen is a gas used inside most high powered lamps that helps extend the life of the filament. The extreme heat boils away parts of the tungsten filament on a microscopic level. The Halogen helps to encourage those particles to settle back onto the filament instead of on the glass (or quartz). This prolongs the lamp life. Most lamps are made with Quartz instead of glass for added strength.

EDIT: See my post Here for more information
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