3" Fresnel Buying

[Charc]

Not to hijack,

(Moved to a more related section for this post. B.Ship)

but it has to do with 3" fresnels... are there any commercially available besides the Altman 100Q? My quick search produced only one retailer, selling 'em at about 96 USD. I was hoping for something closer to 60 USD. Don't really care about the manufacturer or quality. These'll get used in maybe 6 shows in the next two years (afterwards, who cares? I'll graduate!)

Apologies for the hijack,
Charles

[gafftapegreenia]

To anwer for the 3" size. $90 is probably what your going to pay for them new. In addition to Altman, Times Square also makes Inkies. I thought L&E once did, but their website offers no clues.

Also keep an eye on ebay, every month or so another few 3" Fresnels come up for bid, usually Altmans or Kliegls.

Would PAR 16/20's be appropriate for your application?

[Charc]

Originally Posted by gafftapegreenia

To anwer for the 3" size. $90 is probably what your going to pay for them new. In addition to Altman, Times Square also makes Inkies. I thought L&E once did, but their website offers no clues.
Also keep an eye on ebay, every month or so another few 3" Fresnels come up for bid, usually Altmans or Kliegls.
Would PAR 16/20's be appropriate for your application?

Ya know what side tracked me from my search was in fact PAR 16s. And I do plan on getting some, though I'm in the early stages of research on 'em. I figured I'd get some DJ type lights, but I can't find anything that really fits the bill. I'm not sure what the de facto wattage is, because the ones I found that I liked apparently have a maximum of 50 watts, when a post on CB once mentioned 75 watts. I guess a Diffuser might soften a PAR 16 up enough? I just thought that fresnel would be quite smooth, and nice to use way up close on the stage. The instruments I was looking at were these. Anyways, I want a black, PAR 16, that doesn't have to be really durable. I was considering chopping off the Edison connectors and using stage pin instead, but I figured I might plug them into our new portable event lighting (which is all Edison). I have yet to look into the cost of Edison-SPC adapters.

In terms of lamps, 120 volts, max 75 watts, considering 50 watts, but I dunno if that's now enough. I'm not sure on beam angle either (or rather VNS, WFL, etc.) I figured I'd want to get the widest possible, but without barndoors, I'm not sure.

[icewolf08]

If you are interested in going the PAR16 route you might want to look into L&E's PAR16's, they are more robust than many of the other ones and they are rated to 75w. Creative Stage Lighting also makes them, and they are less expensive than the AMDJ version, and virtually identical.

Like others have said, the 3" fresnel land is going to be around $100.

[stantonsound]

Here's a little guy for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Inch-Fresnel-S...QQcmdZViewItem

[ship]

Selecon has the “Frodo Fresnel.” ACT lighting lists it as one primary dealer that can get that gear. Most theater supply companies have accounts with any number of brands. Just because you can only find pricing in one place, doesn’t mean it’s not available. I’m Sure BMI and Production Advantage amongst a multitude of websites also list the Altman 100 Inkie in various prices, this in addition to any number of suppliers that have an account with Altman. Just about everyone has an account with Altman.

Selecon, ARRI have 3" or smaller Fresnels even low voltage types. Times Square might make a 3" or smaller Fresnel that often could be very reasonable in price. (Couldn’t get onto their website.)

Way back when I would contact Bash for the price on used Inkies. Potentially any number of used gear sites including Altman themselves - their rental house might have some available. $96.00 each list price ha? My how fast the price goes up, bought mine much cheaper years ago.

“Don’t really care about the manufacturer or quality.” “afterwards, who cares? I’ll graduate!” I hope that was a joke because those statements would about ensure nobody would hire you to work for them - ever. Yes at times something that will get you thru a few shows but not when followed up on a personal note by what followed. As a professional it should never matter the duration of time you will serve at your post, your career demands that at all times you do the best not just for you in making it easy, but look out for the theater and it’s future people using the equipment. A cost effective fixture perhaps, not something that will serve while you work for them and who cares not your problem after that. Very much an attitude change on your part necessary even if joke because it’s not.

[ship]

Originally Posted by stantonsound

Here's a little guy for sale.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Inch-Fresnel-S...QQcmdZViewItem

Hmm, too bad it's sold, these were the 3" Fresnels in question as mis-sold as a 2" Fresnel.

[lamphead]

We have six of these Arri 150's in our inventory. They are well made and have held up well thru 4 seasons of hard use. We do 30+ weeks of opera every year, our schedule and stage guys are not kind to gear. These fixtures cost more than the Altmans but if you have money to spend on them you'll be happy.

http://www.arri.com/entry/products.htm

[soundlight]

Not that they are better than Arri's (the arri's are better), but our Altman inkies take a whole lot of abuse each year. They're used in the light lab, on the set (as in screwed in to floors, walls, etc) for shows, and for lighting projects, and they're great. I've found both the Altman and Times Square units for $78. (Production Advantage and Stage Lighting Store, respectively).

[stantonsound]

Originally Posted by ship

Hmm, too bad it's sold, these were the 3" Fresnels in question as mis-sold as a 2" Fresnel.

What do you mean it is sold?