Lack of Electrical Safety

[Hughesie]

now i know im a sound person and not a lighting person but when i saw this in my workplace i just had to photograph it what you are looking at is an image of patch leads that have just been all removed from one dimmer ONE DIMMER look at them all. and i know for a fact that they weren't little lights they were sets of parcans which i know take a fair amount of voltage...110v i think

so what do you think?

[Van]

What in the heck are those things? You've got weird stuff down there.

[Jezza]

I concur--that doesn't look like anything unsafe to me because I don't know what I'm looking at--but I'll guess just on the principal of things that that big plastic/rubber coated bar hanging in mid air isn't good, and nor is all the cabling in a rats nest on the floor???

[Van]

Ok I looked at it again. That's like a "daisy chain" plug system right? kinda like how we have Christmas lights here in the states. so that's like ten pars all pulling power through that first plug.... That's scary. The stuff in the background is just a pile of coiled rope. but what you're saying is that someone actually plugged ten pars together. That's like plugging 11 twofers togerther and tapping one par off of each twofer. Someone should get a boot up the A** for that one.

[Grog12]

Originally Posted by Van

Ok I looked at it again. That's like a "daisy chain" plug system right? kinda like how we have Christmas lights here in the states. so that's like ten pars all pulling power through that first plug.... That's scary. The stuff in the background is just a pile of coiled rope. but what you're saying is that someone actually plugged ten pars together. That's like plugging 11 twofers togerther and tapping one par off of each twofer. Someone should get a boot up the A** for that one.

You're right and wrong..in Australlia they have these fantastic piggie back plugs that i would love to see stateside...quite awesome.

Here's where you're wrong..its more like 20 PAR's...see in Australlia they didn't get 220v lamps until recently so most all of their PARs have to be plugged in in series with funky little 2-fers.

[avkid]

Originally Posted by Grog12

in Australlia they have these fantastic piggie back plugs that i would love to see stateside

Um..no.
That's just asking for trouble.

[Grog12]

Originally Posted by avkid

Um..no.
That's just asking for trouble.

Actually its only asking for trouble with someone who isn't properly trained. It eliminates the need for 2-fers and 3-fers. It also makes hard patching a breeze.

[avkid]

Originally Posted by Grog12

Actually its only asking for trouble with someone who isn't properly trained.

My point exactly, you could probably hand 80% of us here a set of cams and meter and have correct and safe power quickly.
The other 20% are the ones that scare me.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by avkid

Um..no.
That's just asking for trouble.

Not functionally any different from tri-taps, power strips, twofers and the like.


--Sean

[avkid]

Originally Posted by Sean

Not functionally any different from tri-taps, power strips, twofers and the like.
--Sean

Tri-Taps are the devil, a power strip adds a fuse or breaker.
A properly wired and rated two-fer is an acceptable solution.