my first time(installation)

[JustinPBrunei]

Hi all,

ok, as I do mostly board ops and moving light programmer. I really have no experience in drawing installation at all. So I've got some question and please give me some ideas.

I don't have the actual plot drawn yet. But the place is actually a multi purpose hall, very small. Stage is around 8.2m weight, 6 meter height, 7meter depth. It is it for drama occasionally. Since it is a multi purpose hall, well you know. ~~

the type of fixture in my mind -
conventional -
S4 leko zoom and 26,36 degree(with few gobo holder)
S4 parnel
Apollo Right Arm for S4

intelligent -
Alpha spot HPE 575
Alpha wash 575

Dimmer/control -
ETC sensor
dmx splitter(any recommandation)
dmx merger(any recommandation)
Chamsys MQ/with wing
wireless network dmx(any recommandation)' the place is small '

smoke/hazer -
I use jem for smoke and DF-50 oil base for hazer.
I think jem is fine but as for DF-50 is quite loud is smaller place,
any recommandation on other product yet can still produce similiar quality?

Gobo/Filter -
no idea on this one

So, what filter is mostly use for drama?
Or maybe I should include a colour scroller too, but they'r noisy yet more worst in small area.

For gobos, what is preferable?. for the general requirement for drama?.
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whatelse do I need?
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If you happen to have a sample plot that you'r willing to share, so I can have a better understanding of things around.

[JustinPBrunei]

one more -
If we'r to to present the plot or a visualize image?
how can we prevent them from copying?
Should I just present the list and the images and kept the drawing until they comfirm?

[gafftaper]

Ok, here's basic colors in 3 paragraphs...

You can't go wrong with a mix of Roscolux 02 Bastard Amber (warm) and Roscolux 60 No color Blue (cool). If the Amber is too warm then go with Roscolux 06 No Color Straw. Finnally use Roscolux 99 Chocolate for a neutral... it's not as brown as it looks. This combination won't win you any awards on Broadway for creativity but it's fool proof and looks good for dramatic washes every time.

If you want the show to have a lighter more humorous feel switch to a mix of Roscolux 33 no color pink (warm), 51 surprise pink (neutral), and 60 no color blue (cool). Again a basic combination that always looks good but feels less dramatic and more fun than the amber/straw wash.

As you develop your design skills start adding in slightly darker versions of the same colors for side, back and down light (leaving the paler colors out front). As you get a better feel for color mixing then you'll find you can use the deeper colors from the front as well.


Probably the top hazer out there right now is the Look Solutions "Unique Hazer 2".

Scrollers... do you NEED them? If not don't use them, they can be loud and distracting depending on the size of the theater.

Gobos? It all depends on the show. Generally my rule is no gobos unless there is something in the script or set that really needs them... again the more advanced your skills the more ways you find to use gobos for texture and interest in ways that are subtle but not distracting.

[soundlight]

Are you doing a temporary install for a show, or a permanent install for a facility?

[JustinPBrunei]

it is permanent installation

[gafftaper]

OH... hold on, permanent installation... ignore a lot of what I said. I was thinking you were talking about just a single play performance. Tell us more about the purpose of the installation.

[icewolf08]

I would look into finding a local theatre consultant to work with. We can give you good ideas, but you should be able to find a local company whose business is helping design systems for theatres. They also can probably set you up with the right people to get the right prices. Also, talking to someone local gives you the opportunity to show them the space so that they reall yunderstand what you need for what you are trying to do.

[JustinPBrunei]

the reason is the system is old and need lighting upgrade. A full change.
previous there's i think 9 more or cyc on the bars. and selecon by the front of house and front of stage.
As I've said the place is pretty small, a multi purpose hall. It looks like a rectangle box with one side end as stage. so there's not much to worry about for multiple viewing angles.

Well, believe it, there's none that are good with installation locally.
I'm push into this which also means I have to do it no matter what. ~~~

[sound_nerd]

To produce similar effect to the DF50 with less noise, try Swefog Ultimate 3000. The compressor section is removable and can be extended with an air hose to put in a different room backstage, keeping the noise floor on stage low. The pump/tank unit without the compressor makes little to no noise itself when running.

[JustinPBrunei]

is there any LED strip that can output a good amber?