Effects and colors to simulate water

[jjestrauss]

Does anyone have some ideas for effects and/or colors that best simulate water????

[soundlight]

Gam Film FX unit with water loop and a taped together gel of a few colors in the blue range.

[Logos]

We've had a couple of threads on this.

1/ Have a shallow dish of water about 2 feet square. Focus a lantern down on it and have a fan agitate it. It will give you a water reflection.

2/ Pin a sheet of aluminium foil to the back of a drop. Point a fan at it to agitate it and bounce the light from a lantern off it. Once again water like refections.

Light blues and sea greens I won't give numbers as I use Lee.

These are both cheap and easy and give the effect of water refections on the set. There are a number of projection techniques including but not limited to gobo rotators, effects wheels, wave projectors but they are more expensive. What are you actually after and how much budget do you have?

[derekleffew]

Originally Posted by Logos

...Light blues and sea greens I won't give numbers as I use Lee...

Oh, go ahead and name names there, Logos. We have lots of Lee Filters in this country. And users can always go here for conversions, for the unofficial color media of the Control Booth! (but what's up with no #00, Clear?)

[gafftaper]

Logos gave you a good rundown but to really recommend something there are a few things we need to know...
How large of a space are you trying to cover with the water effect?
What kind of budget do you have?
Is this just a quick show or a long term install?
Do you have any sort of real water on the set that could be used to generate the effect?

[BillESC]

Depending on your budget and the size of the area you need to cover there are several water projection fixtures in the market.

The Aquasplash by VEI is inexpensive and does a nice job for under $ 200.00



Here's the link with a Quik Time Movie.
http://www.visualeffectsinc.com/visu.../v9970dlx.html

For a more robust output and larger area coverage the Elation Waterfall 250 will do the trick for around $ 700.00



Here's the link
http://www.elationlighting.com/produ...ecial%20Effect

And yes a shallow pan with a mirror in the bottom and an inch of water will also work. We used this method for the "Hair" tour in '72.

[Logos]

Originally Posted by derekleffew

Oh, go ahead and name names there, Logos. We have lots of Lee Filters in this country. And users can always go here for conversions, for the unofficial color media of the Control Booth! (but what's up with no #00, Clear?)

OK I always like L131 Marine Blue and for a more saturated sea green L116 medium blue green. When I can get it I also use L725 Old Steel Blue and L132 Medium Blue. This is for the above mentioned water effects you understand. I sometimes add a diffusion gel to soften the edges of the effect.

[Jezza]

Depending on how literal or how realistic, GAM has great "recipes" on their site to use a dual gobo rotator along with a static gobo to create some respectable looking effects.

The best water I've seen, outside of a scenic projector or actual video has been using the Rosco Scene Machine, which is fairly close to a scenic projector. Using different Image Glass, the device can create a very pleasing water effect.