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Old January 18th, 2008, 11:36 AM

 
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No border around the outside
-2nd Electric has parts where numbers are hard to read.
-Your fixtures should all be perpendicular to the pipe.
-Your Pipes should all be double lines and a little heavier line weight than the set, but less than the lights.
-The Channel numbers should be in a circle and in the same color as the other labels
-FOH gels can't be read.
-Your legend should have a box.

-As far as your notes go, aside from saying the designer has final say on trim and the centers note the rest are kind of

my preference is to point the lights either us or downstage and put an area label on the side of the unit, but that is just me.
But yes, if doing angles having multiple label legends for each, I am still weary on the idea for a heavier plot.
Much of this is designers choice and is dependent on the usage of the drawing. I don't use a drawing border, as I print in 1/4" on 11x17, thus there's no room for the border and still get the entire plot inside the print margins. My drawings are not created for presentational use, instead being a working drawing for the electricians (who don't care if there's a border or not). They do need a key and instrument legend as reference, which I place in a separate layer at smaller scale.
Designers choice as to fixture pointing. I use US/DS except for sides/hi-sides, which point towards center, with appropriate label legends to allow for an uncluttered drawing (VW). I happen to dislike the angled instrument pointing on a drawing, but that's me.

I think fixture pointing is an issue w/ WYSIWYG, as the angle of the instruments allows for rendering, with the instruments needing to point to the area they will focus, so as to render the design.
The theory in CAD and old style "by hand" is space at 1'-3" for straight US/DS focus, 1'-6" for units focusing at 45 degree angles, and 2'-0" for L/R focusing. Or so I was taught and it being dependent on the fixture choice.

I also don't double line the pipes. Why ?. It sometimes looks better, usually if 1/2" scale, as it gives definition to an electric pipe, but isn't seen in 1/4".

There's a USITT symbol standard, which has a circle for channels, and a hexagon for dimmers. I happen to hate the look, using an oval circle for channels - it better allows for 3 digit numbers, and skip a container for a dimmer. The key clearly shows what/where a dimmer is and like having the channel shown more prominently, which placing it in a container shows.

Again, all this is dependent on the drawing usage and needs of the designers and the users of the drawing, thus there's no
real standard.

I do find that I don't like what I've seen of WYG prints, but as some users indicate, if it works and gets the message across, the use whatever works.

Steve B.

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There's a USITT symbol standard, which has a circle for channels, and a hexagon for dimmers. I happen to hate the look, using an oval circle for channels - it better allows for 3 digit numbers, and skip a container for a dimmer.
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I think you posted a plot using the oval circles I saw that and realized the advantage and have added an oval container to my VW template file.
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I think you posted a plot using the oval circles I saw that and realized the advantage and have added an oval container to my VW template file.
Yeah, I got nit-picky with the stock channel circle container VW, gives you and figured out how to create a symbol and add it to the containers folder.

My plots aren't used to hang as new, it's a rep. plot with the units staying hung, thus what I want the person using the plot to see is the channel and color popping out off the drawing. Thus adjusted text as bold and larger font sizes, with the dimmer not as prominent. It's all particular to our needs and probably wouldn't work as well on another drawing.

WYG drove me nuts with how little you could tailor to your needs.

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Well, I've been a wyg cadman since revision 1 of the new software (it used to be 3.5) and I wont disagree with anything said here. Note that wyg is primarily a visualizer that markets its integrated paperwork as a 1 stop program. And it works very well for that. The paper work, if you don't used the pre-designed reports but come up with your own, does take a little while to set up the way you want to present information. And the drafting sucks. Period. It however is getting better and I believe that one of the upcoming upgrades will be addressing this. Outputting to PDF was a revelation for me and I print all my stuff this way using Cute PDF.

One note...there is a setting in the user options that says "line up fixtures on pipe" and there is a setting that says 180d or 45d. The 45d setting will line up your stuff as its focused using the closest 45d angle.

I'm available for any questions regarding wyg. I own perform and have been using it for 6 years. I connect wyg to both hog II and Hog III and Grandma and preprogram my rigs at home. (At least the patch until I get a better, faster laptop that can handle both programs at a useable speed for cues.)
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Sorry to bring up an old thread but I have a couple more questions,

To Footer4321, How did you get that ruler at the top and bottom of your plot?

Also for you or anyone else that knows about WYG, how do I add in booms?

Last Question for anyone who has ever used WYG, How to I make a (as nice as possible) lighting section?
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huh...I used to just place a small cylinder to represent booms, and then took it up to six feet. But yeah.
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thanks, does anyone know how to insert the ruler showing spacing from the center like the one footer has in his plot (page 1)
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thanks, does anyone know how to insert the ruler showing spacing from the center like the one footer has in his plot (page 1)
Its an object inserted in the library. There are a multitude of different scales available.
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