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Old August 18th, 2008, 06:47 PM

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Embarrassed Need to learn the hog!

Hey guys, i have a concert in september witch i am doing lighting on, i just been told i am useing a hog 1000, just wondering if anyone can give me any websites or something that will help me learn a bit more about it,

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I recommend taking a look at the manual.
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September 2008 or 2009? I don't know how well you are versed in running boards, but it's kind of like saying, "Hey, I'm going to fly a 747 next month, any hints?" Now, if your already a commercial airline pilot, then that's one thing....

There may be a way of getting some feel for this in a roundabout fashion. You can download the MagicQ PC board from Chamsys for free. ChamSys Ltd

It has a lot in common with the Hog, and you can get a feel for the programming and layout. There is a pretty extensive help section. You might also want to check out the High End Systems website for what they have in pdf's on the Hog. (see above) Good luck!
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Completely off-topic, but 747's aren't that ahrd, after you learn the systems.
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Default Re: Need to learn the hog!

Or you can do even better and download Hog II PC, which is still available as a legacy download. The HOG 500 and 1000 consoles use the legacy Hog II operating system.

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Remember that while Hog II PC shows the dual touchscreens of the Hog II, there are no touchscreens on the 1000, just selection buttons in the top row. So learn how to access things via the keypad and not the touchscreens when learning in Hog II PC.
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Completely off-topic, but 747's aren't that ahrd, after you learn the systems.
Maybe, but, I think your opinion would change when you're flying an ILS down to minimums with two engines compressor stalling. Or the old approach to Kai Tak would put some hair on your chest real fast.


As far as Hog Speak goes, definitely go for the Hog PC. While the faceplate won't be the same it will be entirely manageable. The Manual goes into differences between the II and 1000, mainly with using the external monitor.
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Kai Tak is fun.
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Maybe, but, I think your opinion would change when you're flying an ILS down to minimums with two engines compressor stalling. Or the old approach to Kai Tak would put some hair on your chest real fast.
Eh, ILS is easy, and you've got those extra 2 engines there anyway, go do a DME arc and we'll talk, especially on the 747-100 with the actual instruments, as opposed to those new fangled -400s with the glass everywhere.


Hog is also fairly simple, powerful, but not difficult to learn. Provided you have the basic understanding of how a lighting console works, you should be able to learn it. I went from 0 hog time to running a small show of 96 dimmers and 6 Mac 2ks on a Hog2 PC in like 2 weeks.

Try to get the console early and just sit with one mover in a dark room and have some fun.

Side note, what kind of rig is this? A handful of scanners is going to be easier to deal with then 10 universes of VL3500s.
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Where are you located at? There may be a place close by that will give you some playing time. The hog is an easy console (much easier than grand MA). The manual is pretty straight forward when it comes to patching and controling your fixtures.
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Eh, ILS is easy, and you've got those extra 2 engines there anyway, go do a DME arc and we'll talk, especially on the 747-100 with the actual instruments, as opposed to those new fangled -400s with the glass everywhere.


Getting pretty far off topic here ha, but, it wouldn't really matter whether you're flying glass or not as in the 400's I believe the FMC's can't draw an arc, so either way you're flying it with the RMI and DME. Don't monday morning quarterback when it comes to flying; a sim (short of a level D full motion) is not even close to being real when you're in hard IMC with things going wrong.

DME arcs aren't even that bad; Turn 10 Twist 10. I'd be much more wary of an NDB approach. If you've ever done one and looked up at minimums you would see why they call it a non-precision.


But otherwise, I'm with ya Zac850. Given two or three weeks of good study and practice you should be able to pick up the Hog no problem. It's fairly straight forward. One thing I would read up on is the different types of recording (i.e. record state, active, etc..). This can really alter the way a cue behaves.
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