Soft Symbols for Vectorworks

[Herr_Sprecker]

I would like to get folks' feelings regarding the Soft Symbols package from Field Templates. I'm working my way into being comfortable drafting plots in Vectorworks. Even with the discounts available at the trade shows, Soft Symbols represents a fairly significant investment, and I'd like to get feedback about it from anyone who has it or has used it.

Thanks!

[zac850]

Personally, I look at a lighting plot as a communication tool. When I am drafting, my goal is to communicate my wishes and desires to the electrician as cleanly and effectively as possible. I like to think that I do this fairly well with the basic symbol library in VW.

I know many others who view their light plot as an extension of the design, and want the plot to be a work of art in and of its self. (Or see it as an opportunity to advertise themselves, if you see a designer produce a beautiful plot, (s)he also probably produces beautiful art on stage.

Would I personally invest in it? Right now, as a student, no. In the future, maybe?

Having said all that, I did receive one plot with these symbols, and it was a beautiful plot. There was something about the symbols that made it a joy to read the draft.

[Pip]

Can you show us examples of them? I'm not familiar with them.

[icewolf08]

Originally Posted by Pip

Can you show us examples of them? I'm not familiar with them.

I assume you have seen the green plastic field templates? That is what the symbols look like. Is it worth $125 for symbols that are already built into VW? Probably not. Field Templates claims that their symbols are more accurate in terms of things like size and shape, but most manufacturers let you download the symbols for their fixtures for free.

If you want your plot to look like a piece of art, spend the time to make it look like one, tweak your symbols and personalize them, make sure your line weights and other drafting conventions are followed. Use a good looking easy to read font for text. It doesn't matter whether you use the built in VW symbols or Field Template's symbols to draft your plot, it is all about how you use them and make them your own.

[Pip]

Yeah of course... Huh. Interesting. Yeah well I've seen some fantastic looking plots using just the built in symbols in VW.

[Herr_Sprecker]

That's kind of what I thought. Seemed like a lot was already set up and included with VW, and Soft Symbols was just a beef-up of what was already there. Thanks for the opinions!

[Sony]

I really like the symbols which are included with VW. They are clean and functional, I can't see spending any money to upgrade them. I don't see how much of an upgrade they could be.

[SteveB]

In defence of Shelly...

Soft Symbol has a lot of stuff VW doesn't have, as Steve updates the symbol library more frequently then VW - who is galacier at doing symbol revisions and updates. Thus if you need a SeaChanger, as example, SS will have it while you end up creating one in VW.

I personally don't use it, mostly as I can't be bothered to want to spend the time updating all the assorted symbols on a bunch of existing plots that get used over and over, whose symbols currently work fine.

If I were drafting new all the time, I would spring for it, just to get the striplight feature, as well as symbol library of positions, booms, accessories, etc... all of which I have already created and added to a library.

Steve B.

[quarterfront]

I do plots in VW and don't particularly like the stock symbols. Of course, I'm using VW 8.5.1, c.1999, so what do I know?

Until I started using VW I drew all my plots with a handy dandy Sanders template that a friend gave me when I was in college, and when I started using CAD my biggest complaint was that I felt like the stock VW symbols were ugly. Jagged, graceless and too complicated. Then again, what do I know?

So, in order to keep my plot nice and pretty and looking like, you know, MY plot instead of some cold, lifeless computer generated data output, I made my own symbols in VW, which I've been using ever since.

Would I bother to do this again? Hmmmmm.... Don't know. OTOH, would I pay extra $$$ for a set of CAD symbols for a light plot? No freakin' way!

Then again, I only draw about 8 plots a year, so what do I know?

[Grog12]

Soft Symbols isn't worth the money IMHO. Granted on the East Coast Shelley can do no wrong. A good majority of Broadway Designers use his pacakge. But that doesn't mean you need to use it yourself.
Also, last I knew, they had no 3D component in VW so if that's something you're interested in stick with the VW symbols.