Conventional Fixtures - A New Source Four Color Frame? Why?

[derekleffew]

Complete story here: New Source Four Color Frame.


Has anyone ever lost significant sleep over the cost or weight of the S4 color frame? Why can't these companies stop inventing things I'm pretty sure I don't need, and start inventing things I don't even know I need?

[zac850]

Would I buy it? Yes.
Why? To save 60¢ per frame.
Would I care? No.

[gafftapegreenia]

I was totally losing sleep at night over the weight of a S4 color frame, this has solve my problem!

[Footer]

Because... they can? City Theatrical will make anything as long as it involves cold rolled steel. Also if changing your color frames lets you come in under weight you need to re-look at things.

[SAWYeR]

I think the point the site made about rental houses is the strongest. I can't even begin to imagine how many frames for S4s rental houses go through. Sure they buy a TON of them, but think how many never come back cus the renter "misplaced" the frame It actually makes sense...to me at least.

[mbandgeek]

I would be more imnpressed if it made the entire weight of the fixture 33% less, but that would have to defy the law of physics.

[derekleffew]

Originally Posted by Footer

...City Theatrical will make anything as long as it involves cold rolled steel. ...

According to the blurb, it's made from .030" aluminum and similar to an S4PAR frame without a hemmed edge. I haven't a micrometer handy, anyone know the thickness of a "real" colorframe?

Originally Posted by SAWYeR

... rental houses is the strongest. Sure they buy a TON of them, but think how many never come back cus the renter "misplaced" the frame ...

The more an item costs, the more the rental company can charge for a non-returned item.

So in addition to specifying standard, high-output lamps, I now must also specify genuine, steel ETC color frames?

[SteveB]

When I purchased 48 new S4 Pars last year, I stopped using PAR64's thus needed additional c-frames. I knew I wanted metal for the S4's, as I run them at 750 and the paper frames burn in the inside circular edge.

ProAdv gave me a good deal on frames, but a metal, black painted frame currently lists at between $5.40 and $5.65 EACH (model dependent).

I'm not a shop, but still - when you are buying 150 of these suckers, $5.50 vs. $2 for a paper safety frame adds up and hurts.

If the new City Theatrical frame saves $.60, I just saved $100 or so, which makes it worth it.

Then imagine a shop with a thousand, or 10,000.

Steve B.

[MNicolai]

The new frames would also have less momentum when someone inevitably drops one from the catwalk and proceeds to slice open the nice upholstery of the seats below. More of a moot point in that sense.

[soundman]

Originally Posted by derekleffew

The more an item costs, the more the rental company can charge for a non-returned item.

Or the higher profit they will make because now they can get them cheaper. Who counts gel frames anyway, next you will be telling me they bill for safeties.