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Well holy coy for 17 that's pretty impressive. Basic hello gist goes about like this: Post any questions you have, answer anything you have input on. There's no stupid question except for one that we answered a week ago, so the search function is your friend.
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Wow, thats impressive. Again, hello and welcome.
You're 17, have you begun the college process?
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From another 17 year old that sounds like quite a resume you got going there.
do you have any official Qualifications because in australia it appears experience is great but qualifications speak louder than experience. atleast down here
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Right now I'm looking at colleges. I'm still a junior so I have some time. I've considers UW-Whitewater, UW-Stevens Point, Viterbo University, and Millikin University. I already have a meeting with the technical theatre program director setup at UW-SP, and will be setting up a meeting at Whitewater within the next week or so.
Whitewater and Stevens Point are the cheapest and closest, but I'm leaning towards Whitewater out of the two of them. Whitewater has an excellent program, but it doesn't include much audio because they only do straight theatre, unlike SP which does musical theatre. HOWEVER, I still have my roadhouse experience and would be able to work in the Young Auditorium at Whitewater and gain experience there. In the long run I don't think it matters if I go for one or the other because my overall plan includes a BFA in Tech Theatre/Design, work a year or so in the field, then a degree in Audio Engineering, work awhile again, and then finally at some point an MFA in Tech Theatre/Design. So one way or another I still would get the audio end of it, plus Whitewater is close enough to home that I'd be able to commute after my freshman year(they require freshmen to live on campus the first year). The 30 minute drive one-way sounds pretty bad at first, but the price of gas against the price of room/board favors gas. That being said, living at home and commuting puts me 25 minutes from where I currently work, the Wilson Center, but also 30 minutes from the Young Auditorium, both roadhouses which I could get a lot of work at. If I lived on campus at Whitewater then it's an hour to the Wilson Center so I'm locked in only to the Young Auditorium with only every other tech and student that wants to work there. I know for a fact that Whitewater has a program that sends people to high places; Dan Meyer went to high school where I am, and he graduated from Whitewater ~3 years ago and after awhile climbing the technical chain on cruiseships he was brought on the ASM for the touring production of The Wedding Singer and in the past 6 months was brought on for the touring production of Rent. The big thing is that I want work experience supplementing my education. I know I, as well as anybody else for that matter, can sit in a room and learn as much about theatre as they want, but when asked to produce results and make things happen fails miserably. |
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---- EDIT: I do have networking on my side though; Aside from Theatre On Main, The Sharon Lynne Wilson Center for the Arts, Oconomowoc Area School District, and Elmbrook School District, I am friends with the owner as well as the theatrical lighting specialist for Enterprise Lighting, same with the owner of GoAudio!, and have friends at ETC Corp HQ, connections with the Young Auditorium (my sister is employed there), the Schauer Center, and a few other odds and ends here and there. I like to think what I lack in qualifications I make up for in connections. Last edited by MNicolai; March 31st, 2008 at 05:02 AM.. Reason: Additional Info |
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First of Welcome to the booth Mike. You've got a LOT going for you at such a young age. Find a good college to really learn the fine art of the craft and you'll be set. Welcome to the Booth it's a fun place to hang out and learn a lot. There are some really brilliant pros here who know their stuff so ask questions and get involved.
A bit of side advice... be sure you go into college with an open mind. Too often the young techs I meet with a lot of experience fall into the "know it all trap". It's an easy trap to fall into when no one around you in high school has a clue about tech. The know it all attitude works fine in high school but when you get around people who do know it all in the professional world you'll ruin your career in a hurry. (Not saying this is you... just saying to be careful that it doesn't happen to you.) The best advice I have is to never assume, always say, "I have an idea how to do that but can you tell me how you would like it done." That tells me you know something about the topic but you are open and willing to learning new things. Now that's a student I want to keep around. The other positive factor is that you will learn a lot of different tricks and approaches for accomplishing the same task this way. Hughesie this really isn't the case in the U.S. Experience and who you know are extremely important and until just a few years ago, there really was only one qualification available (the test to join the stagehand union). While it isn't exactly easy, there are many high school techs who could pass the union admission test without ever attending college (Possibly our new friend Mike here for example). Recently the theater industry has created its own national certification program for electricians and riggers. Both certifications are difficult to obtain. They require both expert knowledge and a large amount of work experience. So the first real qualifications are finally being handed out but it's going to be a long time until everyone who should be certified is certified. In many cities there are one or two riggers who are certified, then there are a couple dozen old riggers who know as much or more than the certified guys. It's going to be interesting to see how our certification program grows and changes over the next 10 years or so.
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Not going to lie, I definitely have that mindset, at least with my high school crews. It's a problem I've had for awhile but the more aware I am of it the more I am able to deal with it. With this past show I did I avoided that and got a lot more respect out of the crew.
Actually, a bit of irony, even after I, the SM, walked off the show the entire cast and crew were either begging me to come back or telling me to stay away as to not concede my point. That's a story in and of itself, but basically the TD(in this case he's is really the set designer, lighting designer, etc, but not employed to manage the facility, rather to instruct students) yelled at the entire running crew, making false allegations that they had been "deliberately mean and seeking revenge," which caused one our extremely emotionally unstable techs to quit the show. After he not only yelled at them, but specifically pointed to 4 people, I had enough of it. He sent 3 students into tears. I knew what the story was, and that specific person had been causing their own conflicts, plus the information that had been getting back to the TD was mostly false to begin with. So I called out the TD on it, told him I didn't think he was making the right decisions, and when he combatted that I tossed my script and quit the show. The next night he walked into rehearsal, and I'm told that one of the most tense rehearsals he said was "the best rehearsal yet" and "completely relaxed." I stopped at the end of the rehearsal just to check in on the show and the first thing that happened was the TD's informant walked up to me and flat out said that without me there was nobody left to help her overthrow the ASM. Wait, What? It gets better though, the ASM that this girl was trying to overthrow just happens to be my girlfriend. My ultimatum was that for me to come back the TD would have to apologize for everything he said, and the crew showed up for dry tech the next day prepared to say that if he wouldn't sit down and talk to them about what happened they would not work for him anymore. They didn't have to go on strike, but everything got resolved, I came back to the show, and everybody was happy. I know a lot of people may see that as unethical, but with a week before the show, and I hadn't been calling cues yet as SM anyways, it wasn't like my lack of being there would tear the show apart. All in all, I have my moments of arrogance, but I'm dealing with them better and better as time passes. When I work with professionals it's a whole new ballgame, I ask them how they want their cables coiled, what they need me to do next, etc. If somebody starts whining about focusing an extra set of lights at 3a, then I remind them we're paid by the hour. Another thing I like to keep in mind is how much worth there is in what I do. I certainly don't want to be the one to tell somebody their show is going to suck because 3a rolled around and I didn't want to take another 20 minutes to hop in the Genie and perform final focus on one extra electric because I was too tired. "I'm sorry, you're show's going to look like crap because I was too tired last night. I definitely had my own diva complex for awhile, but the real experience I've gotten at the Wilson Center has dealt well with that. First of all, you know you're in trouble when you're shift doesn't start until 8p, and in one night you have 10 guy available to strike an entire RC Car track on the main stage, strike the party in the studio theatre, plus two huge canopy tents outside, load out your audio company, plus restore the repertory lighting plot. I went for my timesheet to clock out, looked outside, shouted across the stage to my ATD, "Uhh..,Rollie, I think the sun is already coming up..." As much as it sucks at times, there are certain responsibilities that the industry requires, some of the perks of being in tech theatre double as the downfalls of it. Everyday you walk in you get to do something new...but everyday you walk in you have to learn how to do something new, and how to fix something new, and how to strike something new, and how to grin and bear it when something new doesn't work like it should. But that's just how the industry is; there will always be new gear that stagehands have to adapt to. I was talking with a coworker last night in his 40's with an MFA in tech theatre, and he said that it used to be he could do all of the audio and computer stuff, but a three year break from that and suddenly he could hardly plug in a microphone. We just replaced our Strand 300 Series console with a Mantrix and one of our best, but also one of the youngest, board ops had to be taught how to use a two-scene preset instead of submasters. Technical theatre is not for anybody too stubborn to learn something new; there isn't room for anybody with that sort of ego. "Your show is going to suck because I didn't feel like learning how to op on your console." I have trouble thinking of many jobs that require such a fast learning curve and willingness to troubleshoot and be open to learning. ------------------------ EDIT: In what other profession do you have to have the answers for everything but be capable of learning more? Last edited by MNicolai; March 31st, 2008 at 07:32 AM.. |
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Wait until you get out there for the first time. The learning curve get very large all of a sudden. For example, you've always worked low-budget with an ETC Express and have a Hog thrown at you and told that you have three weeks to light the show and learn the board. Yeah, it gets fun.
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Welcome on board, Mike! You've certainly got a bunch of experience tucked under your belt, although I did have to chuckle at some of your comments. I'd love to have gotten you in my scene shop a few years ago.
Your comment about 'there isn't room for that kind of ego' really amused me, but you're young and that will come to back kick you in the keister many times before you get to be my age. Man, there is nothing but that kind of ego in tech theater. IMO - It is unethical to walk out on any show - you are only as good as your reputation in this business and your rep is only as good as you last show. you get a reputation for being a hothead and walking out and that will be a death keen in the real world. I've worked some pretty awful shows and I've been so made I could spit neutronium, but I have always fulfilled my contracts no matter what to the best of my abilities. The revenge comes the next time they contact you... Three students in teares - wait until you see a Master Chef reduce an entire kitchen to them - that happened when I was FoH for a big winemaker's dinner. Some of these folks had years of experience and the chef reduced them to tears in a matter of minutes. He was later very magnanimous about it to the crowd, but none of those people will ever work for him again. So, it doesn't just happen in school that you will find people like this. Another word of advice, get as much training in as many fields as possible. True, you might want to pursue a career in sound or lighting, but if something happens to you in years hence, it's nice to have an alternative field (in theater) to fall back on. I worked as a master carpenter and scenic artist for years (like 30) until a shop accident permanently put an end to that. However, I had other experience, FoH and stage managing, that allows me to at least continue working in the theater. Otherwise, I would be stuck in some office, organizing files. You are right about being open to new ideas, new information, that's a basic tenet in tech theater, although you can work in a house that has old lights, an old light (or sound) board and still have a great career. We got a grant so we could get an over the top board and robotics so that our students could compete. In our hey day, we had a 93% success rate of placing techs in professional jobs - many of whom have continued. The program then bottomed out and I'm thinking the college is going to shut down the whole department any day now, but we won't dwell on that. Get as much training as you can, give every job as much as you have and you'll never want for work. you may not love the job, but you can still learn something from it. Charlie |
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