What is a "whaler"? How does it differ from a "hog's trough"?
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Students-only until 06/28/10, please.
Alright, I suppose I'll let the students go first.
Terry Dana Jachimiak II
Assistant Professor of Theatre
New Wilmington, PA
Any students want to take a stab at this?
"There is a great deal of difference between an eager man who wants to read a book and the tired man who wants a book to read." - G. K. Chesterton
Um, duh, a whaler is someone (preferably with a gray-ish beard,) who throws harpoons at large ocean mammals, while a hog's trough is something that you dump slop into so the piggies can eat. Like, totally duh!
Oh, wait, we were supposed to let the students go first? Sorry, guys.
Is this a rehash of the strongback vs hogs trough debate?
One must first know and understand the rules of theatre before one can break them.
Does a hog's trough have anything to do with a trough strip light?
Whaler = low- profile stiffeners for steel framed flats – a steel hog trough 
hog trough = "angle iron" made of wood. L shaped piece of wood 
So a Whaler is used to made the set panels flat and thinner than a hog trough support/framing. The whaler differs from the hog trough use steel/metal not wood that a hog trough use.
So is this even close?
 Technical design solutions for theatre: the technical brief collection By Don Harvey, Yale School of Drama. Dept. of Technical Design
and Production (page 150) http://books.google.ca/books?id=hQVV...heater&f=false
 Scenic design and lighting techniques: a basic guide for theatre
By Chuck B. Gloman, Rob Napoli http://books.google.ca/books?id=9HQR...page&q&f=false (page 179)
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i have not ever used a whaler, added to that i'm have both dyslexia and dysgraphia, therefor probability not the best person to write the wiki. I can not describe when/how to uses for whaler/ hog trough.
Otherwho I don't think it really matters what you have, though I am a little bit puzzled as to how dysgraphia will affect your typing. We aren't talking about a 5 page paper on whalers, heck you could probably just copy what you wrote above. The beuty of a wiki is that anyone can contribute, but every article must start somewhere.
Hey, if you don't want to write it just say you don't want to no need for excuses.
Pure speculation as to the origin of the term...
See the two maroon stripes running horizontally on the side of the boat?
Intended to reinforce the hull, they are known as "whaling boards" or "whalers."
Which would kind of indicate that they should be flat and not on edge. In wood, with flat, Broadway flats, would simply be called a "stiffening batten" or "stiffener," and possibly attached with keeper hooks.
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I agree with Tex. Never heard of "hog trough" - or if I have it's somethin I never used either but considered as the same...dismissed as a non-proper term. I'm also yet to ever use a wooden whaler on a steel or aluminum framd set piece. What's going on here? Someone trying to re-define the terms in making them less than localized persay? This given a Texas and Illionois objection to what's above said - and there is real differencs between the two countries in most everything else. Wikopedia crap, get a text book. If not in it, get another. If found but not confirmed after three, get more. For me the two are the same, one is more prope but I would assume of the other. Now how you gonna make a L-Stiff into a Hog Trough without adding another board? This from my rememberance (possibly wrong) of what such a thing is. L-Stiff more better term if the case on the other hand.
Have a nice day
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I and many of my workers learned a wood L stiffener is "hog trough", so maybe it's a west coast thing (and I too have always wondered how it's a trough without being a U shape). I wouldn't look down on "whaler" as long as everyone knew what we're talking about (love nautical in Theatre, my desk loft here in the shop is the wheelhouse).
Tom R. Earlywine
Technical Director - Douglas Morrisson Theatre