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Old August 24th, 2009, 04:15 PM

 
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I am looking for advice on constructing a set that is primarily two adjoining jail cells for an upcoming performance. The audience is looking directly into the cells from what would be the back wall, so the set will be a center/dividing cell wall, and then the bars and doors for each upstage, with a corridor. . .

I have several pictures to work from and several ideas for the door design; anyone have any suggestions to offer? Ideas for material to use for the bars that will keep costs down?

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Do you have a competent welder available?

Scrap metal is dirt cheap right now so I suggest you look around scrap yards for iron bars.
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2x4 and conduit works. Pipe is a better way to go if you want it to last longer. On the cheap and without a welder/abrasion saw I would do the conduit/2x4 path. The trick is to drive dowels into the ends on the conduit to screw into. When you drive the dowels in they should fit VERY tight. When you drive your screw in it spreads the dowel and holds it tight. Exeperent with that, it should work for you. I built this jail for Joseph that way.

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I did a cheap one once (needed to be light, also) that was essentially a normal 1x3 studio flat frame plus little corner blocks to hold it square. I used a paddle bit to sink 1/2" PVC halfway into the bottom and top rails, and all the way through a middle toggle. Doesn't quite fool you, perhaps, but tells the story.

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This is not really what you asked for, but it struck me as I was reading your post. What if instead of building jail cells, you used two areas of light divided by darkness and a couple of jail bar gobos? Just an idea...
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Do you have a competent welder available?

Scrap metal is dirt cheap right now so I suggest you look around scrap yards for iron bars.
I weld, quite a bit actually, and I'd love to make an actual iron jail wall, but I am afraid the weight would be an issue. If we had more storage available, I'd love to do it right and keep them, but I don't think we do.

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2x4 and conduit works. Pipe is a better way to go if you want it to last longer. On the cheap and without a welder/abrasion saw I would do the conduit/2x4 path. The trick is to drive dowels into the ends on the conduit to screw into. When you drive the dowels in they should fit VERY tight. When you drive your screw in it spreads the dowel and holds it tight. Exeperent with that, it should work for you. I built this jail for Joseph that way.
Plastic or galvanized conduit? This might work out quite well...

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I did a cheap one once (needed to be light, also) that was essentially a normal 1x3 studio flat frame plus little corner blocks to hold it square. I used a paddle bit to sink 1/2" PVC halfway into the bottom and top rails, and all the way through a middle toggle. Doesn't quite fool you, perhaps, but tells the story.
PVC was one of the options we have talked about, but I am concerned that small diameter PVC will fail to hold its shape well enough. Perhaps the entire structure using PVC, and run wooden dowels down a couple of the 'bars' for rigidity...

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Perhaps the entire structure using PVC, and run wooden dowels down a couple of the 'bars' for rigidity...

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Then, I think, you could save yourself time and trouble by just using thicker dowels. I second the conduit option. It's like me: cheap and simple.
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