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Old June 2nd, 2007, 08:46 AM

 
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Hey the designer for a production wants to have these bits of cloth hanging from the roof that are crumbled but still hang

they need to be six meters long

so

the material we are using is
6x2m

and we have tried many things and none have worked

it needs to be pretty easy to do and sturdy
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Dutchmen them. Soak them in a ton of glue, lay them out, and crumple away. Put them down on plastic so they don't stick to your floor. This will only work with a lighly woven fabric, musilin works great.
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the material we are using is calaco

soak them in glue, that's a lot of glue
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You should water down the glue
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We did this thing in my theatre, but it was with different material. I'm not sure exactly how it will work with yours. But ehre's what we did. We took the fabric, and twisted it. Then, we soaked it, twisted, in hot water, and then let it dry out twisted. Then, we unfolded it, and twisted it again, in a different direction, and soaked it again. We did that about 7 times. On the last soak, don't unfold it once it's dry. We cut off the bottom hem, and pulled the weave apart, making fringe, and cut the fringe into different lengths. Untwist the cloth, and we had an old, wrinkled, falling apart border and background. It's time consuming, but it worked for us. Hopefully, it will work for you, too.
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Using diluted whie glue is one way to go , using a mixture of diluted white glue and corn starch is another. mix it all up in a #3 washtub, wring it out real well, and layout to dry in it's final shape.
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i think it needs to be in a circular formation but also crinkled. the liquified glue might be the trick, but applying it will be hard

compressor and an air gun, would that work?
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Using diluted whie glue is one way to go , using a mixture of diluted white glue and corn starch is another. mix it all up in a #3 washtub, wring it out real well, and layout to dry in it's final shape.
Van, I'm going to be a pain and request metric please. Is white glue what we know as PVA (Poly vinyl acetate)? And such guidance on what a #3 washtub is if you could...
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Van, I'm going to be a pain and request metric please. Is white glue what we know as PVA (Poly vinyl acetate)? And such guidance on what a #3 washtub is if you could...
White school glue, the kind you used in the 3rd grade. And after looking it up, yes it is PVA, never heard it called that before.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...en-US:official

As for the washtub, thats an example. Basically get something big that you can easily run all the fabric through. The key is to drench the fabric. Be aware, in type of nap that the fabric naturally has will be put down by the glue.

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PVA, Alaphatic resin, White glue, school glue, anything but Carpenters/wood glue < the heavy duty yellow stuff which sucks for scenic artist work>.

#3 Washtub = You know the kind Jethro makes a washtub bass out of. Grapes of Wrath. It'd be about 2 feet in Diameter or .06096 dekameters.
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