Dewalt Drill Recall

[ScaredOfHeightsLD]

So, for about two months now I have been trying to bring myself to buy a new drill. I spec'd out a Dewalt 18v XRP and finally got myself to go to the store last night to buy it. It was about 15 minutes before closing. I finally found an associate to open the tool cage and grabbed the last one of the particular model I wanted. I get to the register and it won't scan through. After two different cashiers tried to ring it up, they get a message, "Cannot Sell to customer, product recalled by manufacturer". Needless to say I wasn't too happy and now have to wait for Dewalt to either come out with a replacement or get another model. stupid product recall...

[soundlight]

As was discussed in another thread, give the Makita Li-Ion gun a try - it's got long battery live, plenty of power, and it's really lightweight.

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If you are wanting to go with another company, go with panasonic. They do cost a pretty good deal more, but they are much lighter and are built like tanks. Their chucks are also some of the best out there.

[len]

Did you know that at one time 95% of all drill chucks made came from one of 2 mfg./plants. My dad used to run one of them, which was in Chicago.

Anyone see a Li-Ion drill/driver for under $150?

[derekleffew]

Originally Posted by len

Did you know that at one time 95% of all drill chucks made came from one of 2 mfg./plants. My dad used to run one of them, which was in Chicago...

Just a wild guess, Jacob's?

[gafftaper]

Originally Posted by soundlight

As was discussed in another thread, give the Makita Li-Ion gun a try - it's got long battery live, plenty of power, and it's really lightweight.

I'm telling you this is a GREAT drill. I love mine so far. Haven't built a set with it yet so I can't tell you how long it goes between charges... I've only driven about a dozen screws so far. But it's SWEET... even has a little LED built in to shine on your work. But alas, they are $200.

Originally Posted by len

Anyone see a Li-Ion drill/driver for under $150?

I think Black & Decker and Craftsman have both come out with Li-Ion's in the $100 range but they aren't going to be the same quality. I've had terrible results with several Craftsman Cordless drills in the past. They kept falling apart and my Dad kept buying me new Craftsman's for Christmas to replace the old ones. I love their hand tools but can't recommend them for cordless. I've had a B&D 18v (not Li-Ion) for about 4 years now and I'm very happy with it.

I think if my brain remembers correct theres some sort of corporate connection between B&D and Dewalt now and speculation that they are the same product with two lables. Has anyone heard this?

[gafftaper]

Yep just confirmed, Black and Decker owns Dewalt, Porter Cable, and Delta.

[gafftapegreenia]

Yes, but DeWalt and B&D are on different levels. I love Dewalt, but have a burning hate for B&D Firestorms.

Milwaukee ain't bad tho.

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Was probably lucky for you it was not available. Why are you buying a 18v powertool? Are you going out into the woods or out onto a jobsite where you cannot change batteries more than like once every four hours? Driving any big screws or drill bits that you cannot plug into a wall outlet and use a real drill for?

14.4v should have been more than sufficient in my opinion to give you 2 hours of constant work on a battery, cost less (especially a few years from now in fresh batteries) and not offer a sufficient difference in performance - just less weight (and that will play a factor some day.) Can’t imagine other than being a more manly man the need for 18v over 14.4 volt.

Black & Decker is still the home owner grade of tool and DeWalt while owned by them is still the industrial grade with the exception of Black & Decker Industrial Grade - most often made by DeWalt. Other than that... Nope a Firestorm or what ever Black & Decker currently is, is not a DeWalt.

Black & Decker now owns Porter Cable and Delta? Not totally sure about that, could be in having not checked and otherwise missed that, but at least I do believe they locally to me now share service center buildings which could say a lot or nothing. Just as Bosch doesn’t own Skil, they shared the same service center or does Bosch also own Skil?

Milwaukee.... decent tools had to talk to the repair shop manager after a fourth or fifth call to get a few wee mistakes corrected. Like gee where are my tools? Gee were is my second tool? gee where is my second tool? Gee I got my tools plus one can I send this back so I'm not paying for this extra part? Gee, can I get a refund on this part since I didn't order it yet paid for it and didn't get any help last time I was promissed? This granted any service center could have similar problems and I did also with DeWalt service - just half the calls needed so as to correct the problems of sending a driver out to pickup the tools. Gee, here is half the tools sent in for repair. Gee, where is the rest of the tools sent in for repair. Seems they were in a seperate bucket and the counter help didn't look about our shop for them - but they are all ready to pickup now... Gee, great send a driver back out - just ship them - your expense at this point. Skil/Bosch, not a problem normally, this other than a part they keep telling me is not discontinued and is on order or re-on order every time I call, just seems that it takes like six months to forever in getting it. Really that part is not discontinued even though Grainger Parts says it is. I'll just hold my breath until after six months now, that part finally comes in. Makita service center - having visited them all in major brand service center recently... fine with service, just a total lack of any interest -to the point of say someone coming up to a person standing at the counter, let's help them as opposed to chat amongst ourselves or eat lunch. Even once finally helped, err, you have done this kind of thing before - helping customers correct? Ah' the Makita guys pissed me off the most because I was right there with cash on hand - this as opposed to just the blind person on the phone dealing with incompitent service people.

Originally Posted by gafftaper

I'm telling you this is a GREAT drill. I love mine so far. Haven't built a set with it yet so I can't tell you how long it goes between charges... I've only driven about a dozen screws so far. But it's SWEET... even has a little LED built in to shine on your work. But alas, they are $200.
I think Black & Decker and Craftsman have both come out with Li-Ion's in the $100 range but they aren't going to be the same quality. I've had terrible results with several Craftsman Cordless drills in the past. They kept falling apart and my Dad kept buying me new Craftsman's for Christmas to replace the old ones. I love their hand tools but can't recommend them for cordless. I've had a B&D 18v (not Li-Ion) for about 4 years now and I'm very happy with it.
I think if my brain remembers correct theres some sort of corporate connection between B&D and Dewalt now and speculation that they are the same product with two lables. Has anyone heard this?

[derekleffew]

Originally Posted by gafftaper

I'm telling you this is a GREAT drill. I love mine so far. Haven't built a set with it yet so I can't tell you how long it goes between charges... I've only driven about a dozen screws so far. But it's SWEET... even has a little LED built in to shine on your work. But alas, they are $200...

Should have gotten this one. An impact driver makes all the difference when driving those 3" wood screws.