ControlBooth
 

Go Back   ControlBooth > CB Discussions > Sound

Notices

Sound A place to discuss sound reinforcement and design.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old March 20th, 2008, 04:36 PM
Asst. Webmaster
Wireless Freak

Technical Director
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 948
Thanks: 8
Thanked 38 Times in 25 Posts
Send a message via AIM to mbenonis
Default Re: Wireless Microphone FAQ

I definitely agree that this is a very gray area in the industry. However, I still believe that it would be extremely poor engineering practice, as well as simply irresponsible, to knowingly operate a wireless mic (or IFB) system after the cutoff above 698 MHz, legal or not.

Would you mind posting a link to the other forum you mentioned?
__________________
Mike Benonis
Electrical Engineering '09
Sound Engineer - Department of Drama
University of Virginia
KI4RIX
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #12 (permalink)  
Old March 20th, 2008, 05:28 PM
museav's Avatar

Assistant TD
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 409
Thanks: 2
Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts
Default Re: Wireless Microphone FAQ

That particular comment came from Henry Cohen (http://livedesignonline.com/broadway...aster_classes/) in the ProSoundWeb (PSW) Church Sound forum in a thread that started when someone posted that their music store salesman told them that their local TV station would be "taking the VHF frequencies", apparently all of them since he expected problems with any VHF mics, when it went digital. Hey, it was the music store guy. ;-)

Henry posts a lot on PSW and a number of other theatre and audio/RF related forums and is very well informed on RF related issues. You two would probably have some interesting conversations as you both seem to know a lot of the details on this.
__________________
Brad Weber
audio, audiovisual and acoustical consultant
www.museav.com
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old March 20th, 2008, 05:56 PM
Asst. Webmaster
Wireless Freak

Technical Director
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 948
Thanks: 8
Thanked 38 Times in 25 Posts
Send a message via AIM to mbenonis
Default Re: Wireless Microphone FAQ

Ah yes, Henry. While I don't know him personally, we have conversed a few times on the theatre sound list-serv. I'll be attending his presentation at the Broadway Master Sound Class this May, and I hope to talk to him in detail about these issues after the presentation.
__________________
Mike Benonis
Electrical Engineering '09
Sound Engineer - Department of Drama
University of Virginia
KI4RIX
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd, 2008, 10:30 AM

Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Wireless Microphone FAQ

Good Friday morning.
I'm confused as to the info available about whitespace frequencies, wirelessmics and HDTV broadcast. I have spoken to several mic company reps and cannot easily make headsor tales out of what they are saying.
Any input is appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd, 2008, 07:35 PM
Asst. Webmaster
Wireless Freak

Technical Director
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 948
Thanks: 8
Thanked 38 Times in 25 Posts
Send a message via AIM to mbenonis
Default Re: Wireless Microphone FAQ

Please read over the FAQ, and then ask any and all questions that you still have (even if it seems dumb - I'm sure lots of other people are thinking the same question!). I will admit this is a very confusing topic, and I'd like to make the FAQ as clear as possible.
__________________
Mike Benonis
Electrical Engineering '09
Sound Engineer - Department of Drama
University of Virginia
KI4RIX
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old June 26th, 2008, 02:29 AM
Asst. Webmaster
Wireless Freak

Technical Director
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 948
Thanks: 8
Thanked 38 Times in 25 Posts
Send a message via AIM to mbenonis
Default Re: Wireless Microphone FAQ

I just updated the FAQ with revisions courtesy of Henry Cohen.
__________________
Mike Benonis
Electrical Engineering '09
Sound Engineer - Department of Drama
University of Virginia
KI4RIX
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mbenonis For This Useful Post:
MNicolai (August 28th, 2008)
  #17 (permalink)  
Old September 8th, 2008, 01:49 AM
Asst. Webmaster
Wireless Freak

Technical Director
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 948
Thanks: 8
Thanked 38 Times in 25 Posts
Send a message via AIM to mbenonis
Default Re: Wireless Microphone FAQ

I've updated the FAQ with regard to 900 MHz mics (DON'T BUY THEM!) and new information regarding the 700 MHz spectrum. Please take a look!
__________________
Mike Benonis
Electrical Engineering '09
Sound Engineer - Department of Drama
University of Virginia
KI4RIX
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old September 17th, 2008, 12:32 PM
museav's Avatar

Assistant TD
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 409
Thanks: 2
Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts
Default Re: Wireless Microphone FAQ

Mike,

I believe the 700MHz ban is currently proposed by the FCC and open for comment, but is not yet enacted. It almost certainly will be, however as of right now there is no actual prohibition, only a proposal for it. Yes it is a detail, but there are already too many common misunderstandings of what is conjecture or proposed versus what is law so it seems important to be correct on the distnction.
__________________
Brad Weber
audio, audiovisual and acoustical consultant
www.museav.com
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old September 17th, 2008, 09:55 PM
Asst. Webmaster
Wireless Freak

Technical Director
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 948
Thanks: 8
Thanked 38 Times in 25 Posts
Send a message via AIM to mbenonis
Default Re: Wireless Microphone FAQ

Brad,
You are of course correct. That said, I think it is important to emphasize that while it is currently legal to use 700 MHz devices (only with a license, of course, and we don't qualify anyway), it is very likely that it will not after February 17, 2009.
__________________
Mike Benonis
Electrical Engineering '09
Sound Engineer - Department of Drama
University of Virginia
KI4RIX
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old September 18th, 2008, 11:12 AM

Assistant TD
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 318
Thanks: 9
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
Default Re: Wireless Microphone FAQ

I've said elsewhere that "the FCC is going to-- well, really 'has proposed to', which means that they will--". The way I read it and understand the FCC to work, what they set forth in an NPRM is what they carry out in an R&O unless they're presented with sufficient reason to not do that; and there's no way they'll be persuaded to let existing 700-meg transmitters keep running.

In other interesting news, I found out who PISC are. Their board is made of CEOs of people like Google, AT&T, and so on, the New Owners of 700-megs. "Public Interest", my ass.

All that says to me that Google, AT&T, GTE, Microsoft, and whoever-the-hell-else owns 700 megs now have the FCC by the short hairs, and so we'll be lucky if we get anything out of the deal. Yippee-hurrah.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
faq, microphone, wireless

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wireless Microphone Purchases TechiGoz Sound 15 December 21st, 2006 10:05 PM
Wireless? Sound 21 August 8th, 2006 01:26 AM
Wireless Microphone Problems, with a show approaching. TheAngryFedora Sound 23 February 21st, 2006 07:36 AM


All times are UTC -4. The time now is 01:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Powered by NuWiki v1.3 RC1 Copyright ©2006-2007, NuHit, LLC
Advertisement System V2.5 By   Branden

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54