Results 1 to 13 of 13
"exploding guitar amp" is being discussed in the ControlBooth Special Effects forum; The scene calls for an amp that "explodes" because it is turned up too loud. high school theater/high school budget... ...

  1. #1


    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Vancouver, WA
    Occupation
    Educator
    Posts
    3
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default "exploding guitar amp"

    The scene calls for an amp that "explodes" because it is turned up too loud. high school theater/high school budget...

    I cant use smoke, can use dry ice, can possible just have someone run on the stage with a co2 fire extinguisher to "put it out".

    What would you do?

  2. #2


    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Occupation
    Technical Director
    Posts
    9
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    I'd think for going on the cheap if you can, however you have it fall apart, some kind of powder could be used, baby powder, flour, that kinda thing, that when it falls apart "explodes" a poof of dust goes out. Another speaker mounted behind it could give a really good sound effect of it falling apart. If someone is standing close to the fake amp they could possibly put a foot on top of it when it goes, releasing a catch and causing the whole effect.

  3. #3
    Van
    Van is offline
    CBmod  Premium Member 
    Van's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Portland, Or.
    Occupation
    technical director
    Posts
    5,005
    Thanks
    110
    Thanked 292 Times in 250 Posts

    Blog Entries
    12

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnEstep View Post
    I'd think for going on the cheap if you can, however you have it fall apart, some kind of powder could be used, baby powder, flour, that kinda thing, that when it falls apart "explodes" a poof of dust goes out. Another speaker mounted behind it could give a really good sound effect of it falling apart. If someone is standing close to the fake amp they could possibly put a foot on top of it when it goes, releasing a catch and causing the whole effect.

    NEVER USE BABY POWDER IN A DUST EFFECT!
    I've posted it a bunch of times on here. But since you're new I'll let it slide,
    Your best option is Rye flour it's the least allergenic < I don't know if that's the right way to say that.> and it's Equity acceptable. Baby powder is Talc, Talc and Asbestos come from the same mines. Talc will tear up your lungs the major difference is that it doesn't cause Cancer.
    Cornstarch is another viable option but it and most other Powdered items, baking soda, baking powder, etc. tend to clump if exposed to high humidity, like say, fog .
    Just my two cents.
    Van J. McQueen
    Technical Director
    Artists Repertory Theatre
    "The only Dumb Question is the one you don't ask."

  4. #4
    DeVioS Webmaster dvsDave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Northern VA
    Occupation
    CB Webmaster
    Posts
    3,996
    Thanks
    101
    Thanked 135 Times in 67 Posts

    Blog Entries
    5

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    Hypo-allergenic is the term you are looking for. And this is a big concern in a world where somehow kids develop horrifying reactions to a single particle only a thousandth of a millimeter in diameter.

    [action=dvsDave]stomps on his rant about germophobic parents before he gets started.[/action]
    "There is a great deal of difference between an eager man who wants to read a book and the tired man who wants a book to read." - G. K. Chesterton

  5. #5
     Premium Member 
    sk8rsdad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Ottawa
    Occupation
    Hobbyist
    Posts
    1,100
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 108 Times in 95 Posts

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    Consider using fuller's earth rather than organic materials like flour. Fuller's earth is a common ingredient of kitty litter.

    Organics are a poor choice for a lot of reasons like health, hygiene, critters, and combustion. Google "flour explosion" for hours of amusing videos.

  6. #6


    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Occupation
    Employee
    Posts
    471
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    I'd build a box and dress it to look like a guitar amp, and rig it with hinges and hinge pins so that the sides can collapse (ie hinged at the bottom, and then with removeable hinge pins holding the sides to the top). Get clever with fishing line so that a crew member can pull the line to remove the hinge pins, causing the sides of the box to collapse. Inside the box, I think I'd put an inflated balloon which also has some safe dust-producing material in it (there are already some great suggestions here!), and somehow work out a way to burst the balloon with the fishing line trick - shouldn't be too difficult to rig a thumbtack or pin or something to burst the balloon. Be aware that if you have a crew member run on stage with a fire extinguisher to "put it out" you're going to have to get the extinguisher refilled for every show which will probably blow your budget....I would think with the collapsing box and a burst of dust, you should hopefully get the effect you want!

  7. #7


    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    NYC
    Occupation
    Local One
    Posts
    21
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    I would go with a flash bulb or strobe light set inside the amp. Maybe you could pipe in the CO2 from the fire extinguisher if you can cut a whole in the back of the amp. But then that extinguisher would need to be recharged before it counts towards fire safety again.

    If you dip the general lighting at the same time as the strobe flash, the "explosion" effect feels much larger. A quick puff of smoke out of the amp would be a nice touch.
    Last edited by AdamBair; October 22nd, 2009 at 01:01 PM.

  8. #8

    eternalfire1244's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    London Ontario
    Occupation
    Employee
    Posts
    43
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    The first thing that came to mind was using compressed air. It would be trivial to simulate a power cord with the air hose. The hose would have a valve offstage for someone to trigger, you could use the air to launch the powder via a small tube like a pen or bigger if more dust is needed. If the intent of the effect is to have the speaker "Jump" out of the cabinet, the face plate could be taken off and preset to fall either because of the air pressure or cast intervention as could the speaker as long as it was unscrewed and was close to coming apart. I would use a medium or large christmas tree light (Clear or amber) to simulate the transistors.

  9. #9
    CBmod  Premium Member 

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Occupation
    Consultant
    Posts
    3,332
    Thanks
    34
    Thanked 124 Times in 108 Posts

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    Quote Originally Posted by eternalfire1244 View Post
    I would use a medium or large christmas tree light (Clear or amber) to simulate the transistors.
    Not to nitpick too much, but transistors don't light up unless things are very wrong...
    Triode valves in the other hand...

  10. #10

    eternalfire1244's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    London Ontario
    Occupation
    Employee
    Posts
    43
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    Thanks for the correction. I always get the parts mixed up with some older tech. The last time I saw a vacuum tube transistor was at a local HAM radio flea market ( Put on by LARCfor any interested HAMs out there).

    On a side note isn't the point of this effeect to simulate things going "Very wrong"?

  11. #11
    Van
    Van is offline
    CBmod  Premium Member 
    Van's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Portland, Or.
    Occupation
    technical director
    Posts
    5,005
    Thanks
    110
    Thanked 292 Times in 250 Posts

    Blog Entries
    12

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris15 View Post
    Not to nitpick too much, but transistors don't light up unless things are very wrong...
    Triode valves in the other hand...
    And een then they don't "light up" so much as just, release the "magic blue smoke" that makes all electronics work..
    Van J. McQueen
    Technical Director
    Artists Repertory Theatre
    "The only Dumb Question is the one you don't ask."

  12. #12
    CBmod philhaney's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Laguna Beach, CA
    Occupation
    Flyman
    Posts
    704
    Thanks
    72
    Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    Quote Originally Posted by eternalfire1244 View Post
    On a side note isn't the point of this effeect to simulate things going "Very wrong"?
    Yes, but nine times out of ten, when things go very wrong the transistors turn into noise and smoke emitting devices rather than LEDs...
    The ability to make good decisions comes from experience.
    Experience comes from making bad decisions.

  13. #13
     Premium Member 
    sk8rsdad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Ottawa
    Occupation
    Hobbyist
    Posts
    1,100
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 108 Times in 95 Posts

    Default Re: "exploding guitar amp"

    We don't have to obey the laws of physics. We have an ARTISTIC LICENSE.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •