Another Hazer Thread...Huzzah!

[DCATTechie]

Anyone have any other reviews of hazers that I should look at?

What about the MDG Atmosphere? I know it's out of my budget but I'm in the process of trying to get that budget increased. Has anyone used the Atmosphere before? What are your thoughts?

Thanks!

[icewolf08]

We have an MDG Atmosphere, when it works, it can really put out some serious haze. It requires CO2 in addition to haze fluid, so make sure that you take that inconsideration for operational costs. Also, if you have to deal with union actors, you may want to check out the time and distance guidelines as the requirements are a pretty high. Meaning, you can't put an actor within relative proximity to the machine while it is running (I don't remember the tables offhand).

[derekleffew]

Originally Posted by icewolf08

...Also, if you have to deal with union actors, you may want to check out the time and distance guidelines as the requirements are a pretty high. Meaning, you can't put an actor within relative proximity to the machine while it is running (I don't remember the tables offhand).

See this document: http://www.actorsequity.org/docs/saf...guidelines.pdf from the AEA website.

Actors' Equity has been the most diligent organization concerned with the health and safety of its members with regards to exposure to these atmospheric effects. See also the documents: http://www.actorsequity.org/docs/saf...inalreport.pdf and http://www.actorsequity.org/docs/saf...ment-based.pdf.

[Dalamar]

Originally Posted by icewolf08

We have an MDG Atmosphere, when it works, it can really put out some serious haze. It requires CO2 in addition to haze fluid, so make sure that you take that inconsideration for operational costs. Also, if you have to deal with union actors, you may want to check out the time and distance guidelines as the requirements are a pretty high. Meaning, you can't put an actor within relative proximity to the machine while it is running (I don't remember the tables offhand).

"When it works"
If you have trouble with your Atmosphere, send it to me: someone has misused it and we'll gladly repair it. We have sold thousands of ATM's of all kind since its creation, in more than 40 countries around the world, and I've never heard anyone ever refer to it as "when it works".


"It requires CO2 in addition to haze fluid, so make sure that you take that inconsideration for operational costs"
Not 4 months ago, I had to run a spread sheet on operation costs between the Atmosphere and another extremely popular product. If you need details, I'll provide them in private, not in public: As opposed to others, I do not induldge in product bashing. However, to make a long story short, you do have to consider it. Considering fluid at ~20$ / jug and ours at 45$, plus the CO2, considering the ATM - at FULL INTENSITY - uses (per hour) 55ml of fluid and 180g of CO2, hourly operational costs ran to a little above 1.25$ to their 5.28$.

Yes, it's much cheaper to use an Atmosphere.

"Also, if you have to deal with union actors, you may want to check out the time and distance guidelines as the requirements are a pretty high."
Yup, those are great guidlines. I'm sure everyone follows them too. The fact that they are high simply reflects that MDG product produce significantly more fog in a shorter period of time, fog that will remain longer as well. Also, check the guidlines completely: you can't put ANYONE near a fog machine... of any brand, make and fluid type.

I believe that what the gents here forgot to add to the thread, is that it's the only haze generator that will come with a 5-year complete warranty (the longest in the industry), that has an average life-span (based on MAX series) of over 20 years, and that each ~1200$ machine you'll buy and replace 5 times during that life span will have cost you 3 times your original purchase, not counting that, in these dreadful times, it's one of the very, very, very few haze generators actually built in North America (Montreal, Canada). Considering it's for a school and you get money once every quarter century, whose generator seems to be the best investment?

[DCATTechie]

Well this is a kick to the gut ,

We had a meeting regarding the budget for the year, and the majority agreed that we can afford to spend between around 700-800 dollars on a hazer. What are your recommendations now?

[firewater88]

Originally Posted by soundlight

Ultratec FX (aka Le Maitre) Radiance Hazer.

Another nod for the Radiance. Just got one. It's DMX and has external plug for external fan control. Nice unit, around your price range.

[Sayen]

We use a Le Maitre Radiance Hazer in an 800 seat house. At half power it's almost too much haze for most events, so the unit definately has a strong output. DMX controlled and reasonably quiet. I bought the unit for around $1000 I think, and I've been very happy with it.

We have optical fire sensors (grumbling here about stupid school architects and construction), and I've set them off once when running the unit at full. But I was pushing it that night anyway, any other event under lower power has not been a problem.

[carlmnz]

I have used the unique 2 and the radiance and recomend the Radiance. There isnt much difference to be honest but the radiance is easy to use and easy to maintain.