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Old March 8th, 2003, 03:19 AM

 
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Default Fire Causes Less Piro Effects

I have noticed already that the recient fire in that club has already caused a significant decrease in piro effects being used in shows. I reciently went to go see a show in which I was told (by one of the techies) that there were going to be several flash pots used but was saddly dissapointed when there were none and I later found out that they were pulled due to the recent fire. How do you guys feel about this?
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I have noticed already that the recient fire in that club has already caused a significant decrease in piro effects being used in shows. I reciently went to go see a show in which I was told (by one of the techies) that there were going to be several flash pots used but was saddly dissapointed when there were none and I later found out that they were pulled due to the recent fire. How do you guys feel about this?
It's sad really and it only hurts the economy (think about it, no pryo, no pryo technicians), however I believe that once this gets out of the lime-light everything will eventually go back to normal (but it will only take 3 or so years)
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Yeah, I would agree like I said in another post "as soon as the smoke clears" everything will go back to normal. Its just sad though because piro effects can add a lot to a show and it had to be ruined by a few stupid people.
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Very true, My director wanted me to find some fireworks to go off at the end of "Downtown" in "Little Shop of Horrors" and when I talked to dvsdave, he recommended some non-flammable fireworks that are CO2 powered (and keep in mind this is before the incident in RI). But then after the RI incident, the director refuses to have them in the show. It would really add a lot of "wow" into the show becuase we've never done anything like this before. Oh well.
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Alot of people are canceling them out of respect. When directors are thinking about the show they think about what the audience wants to see, and as much as it might be cool, it might be a turn off. Stuff like that can make or break a show. They will return some day. :D
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Default Re: Fire Causes Less Piro Effects

Well the "first show" of the year if you will is a little Freshmen assembly to welcome them into the high school. They canceled all falsh pots in cluding puff pots this year. Very sad!
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I don't know. If a concert needs flashpots to be entertaining than the music is lacking. I quickly think of the glam-bands of the 80's and the huge pyro shows that they would put on. The truley sad thing is how many unlicensed uncertified people they had running pyro. I have had to run it several times, and I am thankful that I did not kill anybody or even hurt anybody.
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This was not a concert it was merely an effect. The assembly is our freshman initiation. They have a mourning assembly, and then in the afternoon we but on a light, FX, and multi-media show to welcome the freshmen. The GBS mascot is The Titans, so they read the ancient Greek myth about the titans and Zeus dealing with the fact the titans gave mankind fire. Then poof, bangs, and pour on the sound FX. It is really great! And the pyro really made a difference.
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Actually my post was aimed towards Delnor's post of

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I reciently went to go see a show in which I was told (by one of the techies) that there were going to be several flash pots used but was saddly dissapointed when there were none and I later found out that they were pulled due to the recent fire. How do you guys feel about this?
But I still feel the same way about just about everything that relies on pyro for the impact.
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But I still feel the same way about just about everything that relies on pyro for the impact.
I still like the idea of someone shouting "Rat" and pointing. Than instantly every pneumatic staple gun in the scene shop otherwise doing work is trained and fires off the rest of it's magazine in semi-automatic or rapid fire depending upon the setting of the gun at the rodent in that general direction. What other need is there for doing theater other than what hooked me - dancing girls changing where ever they wanted. But I digress. No really that was a large part of why I stuck with theater early on at least.

Pyro, I had enough of that in the Marines and have never really messed or been impressed with it since.

Seems to me that your school needs to come up with a new hook to get prospective "fresh meat" to join the program.

Given the staple gun idea isn't approptate and unless doing some more racy mucicals that year the second Idea won't have much ability to be shown to the froshmen, perhaps it's just a question of better ideas that don't involve things you as students really sould not be playing with anyway. And I mean you should not have access to it even if you are in general responsible - at least until girl #1 comes along. While school rules are much worse than school rules when I went to school, there is some good reasons for them besiedes just lawyers. Like it or not.


What are other ways that you can impress the freshment?

Construct a hard flat wall much less stair case that you are able to climb with Pneumatic power tools in seconds? Do a well rehearsed stage combat routine, reinact a hair cut scene from Sweeney Todd or a feeding from Little Shop?

The stage will always have magic to it. When one form isn't needed or available there is always another way to do it. Instead of doing pyro, how about lighting off some stink pots under the audience when god (- the TD) commands it. Same effect or one with it's own uniqueness similar to just running a rock type shound cue that's coordinated with an amazing light and fly system show to impress the new meat. Granted you probably can't afford moving lights, a hog and WisiWig on a huge flat screen to show how it all goes together and what part of it they will be, but a suitable pre-programmed Light/Sound/Set showing is easily done for specticle.
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