Go Back   ControlBooth > CB Discussions > Stage Management
 
    Advanced Search

Notices

Stage Management From calling cues, to giving notes to actors, to putting down glow-tape.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old January 22nd, 2008, 02:13 PM

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hastings-on-Hudson, New York,
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to bendersen
Default Where do you call your shows from? (High school especially)

A quick thought.

I've always called my shows from our theater's balcony, but I know a lot of stage managers who call their shows from backstage.

Which do you use, and what are the relative merits of each?

Thanks!
__________________
-------------------------
[B]Ben Andersen[/B]
[email]andersen.ben@gmail.com[/email]
Reply With Quote
Old January 22nd, 2008, 06:52 PM
icewolf08's Avatar
CBmod
 Premium Member 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 3,099
Thanks: 21
Thanked 150 Times in 134 Posts
Send a message via AIM to icewolf08 Send a message via MSN to icewolf08 Send a message via Yahoo to icewolf08 Send a message via Skype™ to icewolf08
Default Re: Where do you call your shows from? (High school especially)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bendersen View Post
A quick thought.
I've always called my shows from our theater's balcony, but I know a lot of stage managers who call their shows from backstage.
Which do you use, and what are the relative merits of each?
Thanks!
It often depends on the show, the SM, and the venue. Some theatres don't have room in the booth FOH for the SM. Many Broadway shows have the SM in a wing somewhere with a wall of video monitors. I have been in a theatre where the SM was tucked in a corner between the seating risers and the wall. The audience couldn't see her there, and she had a full view of the stage.

For our theatre, the SM usually sits in the booth. We have plenty of room, and it really is the best view of the stage. If you can be out front with a real view of the stage, that is usually best. Calling a show from the wings can be a lot harder, especially if you have a box set. Calling from the wings usually requires having a good CCTV setup, with at least two stage views, one with an IR camera. Often, even when an SM is out front they will have an IR monitor so they can see transitions.

In the professional world there are AEA rules that can affect where the SM calls a show from. Certain types of shows require certain numbers of AEA SM's/ASM's to be on the deck, and sometimes to meet this requirement the SM will call from the wings.

Frankly, I don't think the SM should ever call the show from the house. You mention that you call shows from the balcony. That seems like a not so great idea. Mostly because an SM usually never stops talking during a show, and it can be distracting to the audience if the SM is sitting in the house.

In short, there is no right answer, it all depends. There are often many things that factor into the decision.
__________________
Alex Weisman
Master Electrician - Pioneer Theatre Company
IceWolf Photography
[email address]

Soup or art?

"Crap happens, it is our job as technicians to fix the problem and see if it can be avoided. That does not mean yelling at actors or other crew people. We make mistakes, that is life. Welcome to live theatre, if it were the same every night it would be TV." ~Me

Love CB? Upgrade to premium today!
Reply With Quote
Old January 22nd, 2008, 07:34 PM

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 270
Thanks: 10
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Send a message via AIM to midgetgreen11
Default Re: Where do you call your shows from? (High school especially)

Stage manager's at my high school always call from the SR wing, almost right behind the proscenium wall, they have a little podium set up.

we don't ever have cameras set up either, its just what they can see from eye's view.
__________________
Ben Green
Lighting Designer
Student Technical Director
North Kingstown High School Auditorium
Reply With Quote
Old January 22nd, 2008, 08:25 PM

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 50
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Where do you call your shows from? (High school especially)

The SM at my school calls from the balcony also. We don't have a booth really... the balcony acts as our booth. There wouldn't be any room backstage for the SM in our current set up. We haven't had trouble with the audience hearing the SM and getting distracted, so I think it's a good set up, especially since it offers a complete view of the stage. When they build the new high school however... who knows what that setup will be. I certaintly won't be here to enjoy it.
Reply With Quote
Old January 22nd, 2008, 10:43 PM

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hastings-on-Hudson, New York,
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to bendersen
Default Re: Where do you call your shows from? (High school especially)

I don't open the balcony usually (only had to for one production, West Side Story last spring). So I don't worry about the noise. Frankly, I don't think the audience was really too bothered by my talking -- I'm quiet and the music and actors were loud.

We do have a booth though, which I've always wanted to use for the stage manager. Right now we're just using it for storage. The biggest issue with the booth is that there is no monitor, so I cannot hear what is going on onstage. Plus, it means I need an extra headset for the spotlight op that I normally sit next to and cue manually.

Thanks for the thoughts.

--

Also, to reply to Charlie: How does your SM call the show AND remain an active participant in set changes? That strikes me as absurdly confusing, and I'd love to hear how the SM makes that work.
__________________
-------------------------
[B]Ben Andersen[/B]
[email]andersen.ben@gmail.com[/email]
Reply With Quote
Old January 22nd, 2008, 10:52 PM
soundlight's Avatar
 Premium Member 

 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Lewisburg, PA
Posts: 2,906
Thanks: 14
Thanked 107 Times in 99 Posts
Send a message via AIM to soundlight
Default Re: Where do you call your shows from? (High school especially)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bendersen View Post
We do have a booth though, which I've always wanted to use for the stage manager. Right now we're just using it for storage. The biggest issue with the booth is that there is no monitor, so I cannot hear what is going on onstage. Plus, it means I need an extra headset for the spotlight op that I normally sit next to and cue manually.
A Booth used as STORAGE? Wow. You should fix that one. If the booth window is big enough for the followspot to shoot through as well as let you cue the show, then you're set.

Things were kinda whack at my HS. I was the Student Technical Director, which meant that I cued sound and lights and followspots off of my script, and communicated with the stage manager and ASMs via cheap two-way radio for curtain, set change, and prop cueing. The stage manager was responsible for everything that happened upstage of the edge of the stage - the curtains, the actors, the props, the set changes, and all that fun stuff. We did have an ASM in charge of each side of the stage, and the SM delegated many responsibilities to them, but the SM was ultimately responsible to the director for everything that was on the deck and the goods in the air during the show. I often choreographed set changes, but the SM was the one who cued them. The SM was also the one who kept the actors in order with a huge super-soaker. No one ever went on wet, but some came pretty close...
__________________
Entertainment Technology/Thea. Design major
All-around techie and designer
Central and Southeastern PA
Imperial 120V Pirate!
Nothing is ever "state of the art"...something new comes out the next day.
"Don't ever grow up. It's over-rated."
Reply With Quote
Old January 23rd, 2008, 06:56 AM
CBmod
 Premium Member 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,799
Thanks: 13
Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts
Default Re: Where do you call your shows from? (High school especially)

You know we did discuss this some time back, with a poll and everything...
http://www.controlbooth.com/forums/stage-management/845-stage-manager-backstage.html

And my gut reaction is still how you manage the stage without being on the stage...
Reply With Quote
Old January 23rd, 2008, 05:25 PM

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 270
Thanks: 10
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Send a message via AIM to midgetgreen11
Default Re: Where do you call your shows from? (High school especially)

yeah the title "stage manager" has always been a self-explanatory one in my school... a manager of the stage... because they have complete control of the shows in my high school... they ARE the TD.
__________________
Ben Green
Lighting Designer
Student Technical Director
North Kingstown High School Auditorium
Reply With Quote
Old January 23rd, 2008, 08:06 PM

 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 223
Thanks: 12
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Where do you call your shows from? (High school especially)

in response to Ben Anderson's question of how the SM calls and helps with set changes...IT DOESN'T WORK. My drama department has had a brand new SM each time we do a show (like, still doesn't know what a traveler is, that kind of new) My director is...interesting.
Anyway, a guy in my department found a night vision security camera for free on craig's list. He rigged it up in the catwalk so that the SM can watch the scene changes during the blackouts and call lights at precisely the right time.
Unfortunately, our tech crews suck and the SM has to run out there and be like "see the neon green spike tape that says 'chair' in glow in the dark paint? the chair goes there"
So by the time she gets back to her chair and calls lights, the audience has been sitting in the dark and hearing enraged whispers from the stage for 2 minutes (well, maybe not that slow...I think that their record slow time for our production of Dracula was 1:13)
I picked up a spare headset one time pre-show, 5 minutes after the 2 minute warning and heard this, "umm...lights and music, you can start the show now."




'nuff said
__________________
Aaron Hess
~~~~~~~~
Technical Theater Major
Point Park University - '12
Reply With Quote
Old January 23rd, 2008, 09:26 PM
themuzicman's Avatar

 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 167
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Send a message via AIM to themuzicman
Default Re: Where do you call your shows from? (High school especially)

Quote:
Anyway, a guy in my department found a night vision security camera for free on craig's list. He rigged it up in the catwalk so that the SM can watch the scene changes during the blackouts and call lights at precisely the right time.
a "guy" haha..

their the best thing I've ever found

anyway, as Bobgaggle was saying, our crew is full of idiots, and our SM is too new to get any sort of routine down and nail some sort of consistency between shows.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
call, high, school, shows

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How vital is high school theatre? moderately_clueless General Advice 25 September 26th, 2008 11:27 PM
careers in lighting raeraeiam Lighting 46 August 14th, 2008 03:42 AM
building a resume jonhirsh General Advice 61 January 26th, 2006 05:46 PM


All times are UTC -4. The time now is 09:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.1 
Advertisement System V2.6 By   Branden

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80