Touring a show

[Image of the Mind Studios]

I'm in the process of designing a program for theatrical development within the academic arena. This involves ground up producing which blends professional, educational and not-for-profit methodology toward a common goal, leading to a touring scenerio, amoung and between numerous academic organizations, colleges & universities, spiralling into a professional union production. Has anyone every engaged in this type of activity before and can offer advise, or would like to join in an effort to create a network in this regard? AG

[6ftstudios]

Hey Arthur,

I may be able to give you some advice or even join in, but I need more info. What do you want to do? what is the final goal? what is the professional aspect? what does the educational aspect involve? if you can share more examples about what you're thinking it'll help me help you.

PM me if you want.

[Footer]

Yep, a bit more into what you actually want to do besides what feels like a graduate thesis statement would be appreciated. What you said sounds a bit too academic for us to actually figure out what you are trying to do. Also, who are you doing this with, is it totally unrealized, whats the complete goal?

[Image of the Mind Studios]

[font="Comic Sans MS"]Hi Guys, Sorry, I don't get onto this site as often as might need be... Yes, the concept (and that's what it is at this stage, no pun intended) goes like this: I have a show that I'm working to produce... now, what I'm working toward doing is to build a management team for this show. Vested individuals, who might become general partners (when the Limited Partnership is formed). So the Academic aspect of it is to create a parallel aprenticeship program in (Bryn Athyn) College, in Pennsylvania. This comes about because the college has a usable theatre, but I think a four wall is insufficient to justify the effort (it's only 480+/- seats and it's a limited run scenario). So why not use the production of this show as an educational tool as well as a professional endeavor? It's become clear that there is not a large enough student base to implement a program like this with Bryn Athyn College alone, so... the idea needs to include surrounding (or a network of) colleges as well. Just as the professional goal is to put the show up (and in fact, to tour it around the world), the academic program is intended to develop a circuit of college performing arts departments, whereby the participating organizations, contribute both students & resources toward the goal of mentoring the apprentices to teach production management and use the participating college facilities as the touring objective. A professional endeavor, implemented and managed by students (in a somewhat more forgiving creative environment) The larger goal is to develop networking abilities and to establish a modus operendi for producing new works and taking them the full nine yards. The advantage of this process is that the professional team who is mentoring the student team will be working to develop the business of producing theatre. Of course, I'm using my show as a test case (why not since I'm designing the concept) Ultimately, if this show is to go around the world, then the students who are working on the academic effort will be functioning in parallel with the professionals, but... they will also be trained to move into that job once they exit school. With this plan, producing "new works" is from the ground up, not in a sheltered environment where the budget is provided by the school. The students and their mentors must raise the needed capital and provide sufficient funds to pay all staff members, just as they would need to do in a professional environment. This will ultimately mean that they will have to learn about ancillary markets and how to exploit them to the benefit of the production. Marketing and all the rest is part of this plan. Since the talents required are quite broad, this effort would include many departments within the collegiate environment. The idea is to train professionals, not simply get kids excited about the theatre and then throw them out into the business without thorough training. I've seen that happen too many times. It happened to me. Anyway. That's the idea. So far I'm getting good responce, but it's something that will take time. I appreciate your thoughts. AG

[avkid]

Lose the font, it's annoying.

[Footer]

Originally Posted by avkid

Lose the font, it's annoying.

its freedom of expression.

[avkid]

Originally Posted by Footer4321

its freedom of expression.

If you want a response having a readable question is necessary.

[avkid]

Originally Posted by Image of the Mind Studios

Hi Guys, Sorry, I don't get onto this site as often as might need be... Yes, the concept (and that's what it is at this stage, no pun intended) goes like this: I have a show that I'm working to produce... now, what I'm working toward doing is to build a management team for this show. Vested individuals, who might become general partners (when the Limited Partnership is formed). So the Academic aspect of it is to create a parallel aprenticeship program in (Bryn Athyn) College, in Pennsylvania. This comes about because the college has a usable theatre, but I think a four wall is insufficient to justify the effort (it's only 480+/- seats and it's a limited run scenario). So why not use the production of this show as an educational tool as well as a professional endeavor? It's become clear that there is not a large enough student base to implement a program like this with Bryn Athyn College alone, so... the idea needs to include surrounding (or a network of) colleges as well. Just as the professional goal is to put the show up (and in fact, to tour it around the world), the academic program is intended to develop a circuit of college performing arts departments, whereby the participating organizations, contribute both students & resources toward the goal of mentoring the apprentices to teach production management and use the participating college facilities as the touring objective. A professional endeavor, implemented and managed by students (in a somewhat more forgiving creative environment) The larger goal is to develop networking abilities and to establish a modus operendi for producing new works and taking them the full nine yards. The advantage of this process is that the professional team who is mentoring the student team will be working to develop the business of producing theatre. Of course, I'm using my show as a test case (why not since I'm designing the concept) Ultimately, if this show is to go around the world, then the students who are working on the academic effort will be functioning in parallel with the professionals, but... they will also be trained to move into that job once they exit school. With this plan, producing "new works" is from the ground up, not in a sheltered environment where the budget is provided by the school. The students and their mentors must raise the needed capital and provide sufficient funds to pay all staff members, just as they would need to do in a professional environment. This will ultimately mean that they will have to learn about ancillary markets and how to exploit them to the benefit of the production. Marketing and all the rest is part of this plan. Since the talents required are quite broad, this effort would include many departments within the collegiate environment. The idea is to train professionals, not simply get kids excited about the theatre and then throw them out into the business without thorough training. I've seen that happen too many times. It happened to me. Anyway. That's the idea. So far I'm getting good responce, but it's something that will take time. I appreciate your thoughts.

There, that does it.

[stantonsound]

Wow....my A.D.D. really started kicking in about half way through that. Can someone summarize that into 25 words or less? It seems like this guy just wants his show seen all over the world. I may have missed something, though.

[Footer]

Really, from the sounds of it, it is a ploy to get a college to produce his show, use their space, wright it off as an "educational" endevor, and run with the show. Having students help pay for a show and have the univerity pay for the show so that they are finicialy liable for it. I really can not see how this is going to benefit the theatre at the school. It will if you get some top notch people to do it with you, but bringing together educational theatre and corporate theatre is fine, but you usually have to pick which side of the fence you are going to lean towards most. If you are going educational, you will most likely lose money. If you are going corporate, you won't be teaching what you need to teach. Please, please, please tell us what you ACTUALLY want to do. Lay off the thesis statement and lay out "the students will do ...." "I will do this..."... it sounds like you have written 900 proposals for this, and you are still using that langage. Also, what do you want to hear from us?

Also, take a look at the website. This person has more irons on the stove then anyone I have ever seen. Also..... hippie alert....