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Old August 24th, 2008, 05:49 PM

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Is your friend certified to teach this area? I can't believe that a school district would have somebody teaching outside of their certification area... especially something as kid-dangerous as technical theater. If he/she isn't, it definately violates NCLB's "highly qualified" standard.

I'd have him look into this.
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TS, you better believe a school district would do something like this. See, it breaks down like this:
WE all here get it. We mostly all have a clue about safety, quality control, etc...and generally 'doing it right'.

These are qualities that, when it comes to the arts, most school districts couldn't give two sh*ts about and don't care to know if they're right or wrong. It's just 'the drama kids', right? Lights, sound, sets, just magically appear and "by the way- what do you mean by 'rigging'? What could possibly happen?"

Football? They get it. Basketball, too. But theater? Well, that's just 'the auditorium'. It's for plays, but mostly it's for detention or study hall.

And if you wanna see a school district without a clue, Long Beach's very own, LB Unified. Google what exploded when one school stupidly tried to get rid of the girls gymnastics program. (Title IX, beeyotches, Title IX) You REALLY think they understand what goes on onstage? Wilson High broke law on gym decision, judge rules - Press-Telegram
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Is your friend certified to teach this area? I can't believe that a school district would have somebody teaching outside of their certification area... especially something as kid-dangerous as technical theater. If he/she isn't, it definately violates NCLB's "highly qualified" standard.

I'd have him look into this.
Most states don't have a special qualification area for either theater or art, and especially technical theater. My degree in theater ed. didn't even require technical theater outside of a basic shop class. There are some odd provisions that vary by state for qualifying teachers in grey areas. There's also no exit exam for the arts in the US, which lowers the need for qualified teachers.

Which doesn't justify it. But, if they did require it, they'd have to fund it, and no district/state wants to fully fund theater.

I still honestly think the best bet is to go minimalist. Take Our Town - still a popular play, and requires virtually no set, and many shows can be adapted to the same style. Hang a rep. plot, and don't do more than you have to, until you learn what you're doing.

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Check out ISETSA | Global Health and Safety Network - Littleton, CO. Though the site hasn't been maintained, it has some great links. All the teacher types on this board should contact them to try to help them out for the benefit of all our students (my opinion). Dr. Doom is great at what he does (maybe the district could bring him in to make sure everything is safe since this teacher doesn't have the experience himself).
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Hi,
My name is Craig, Im a Music ed. major and I also work for the school theatre and I was just wondering what this guys music side workload is? Does he just have one band or a whole music department to pretty much run? etc... Im pretty sure both my music ed. teachers and my boss will get a kick out of this.

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Wow, lots of replies, thanks everyone! He is up and running and things are going pretty well, all things considered. He sent all of his students to the shop teachers class for the first 2 weeks when they were doing safety and testing on all the tools. That was an awesome idea. I went in a couple weeks later on a weekend with 8 or so of his theater students and we cleaned and gutted the place and hung a rep plot (as much of one as I could anyway). He is still way overwhelmed but coping i guess. I am sure I will get asked to come help as they get closer to the production.

To answer Blueglow's question: He is in a 5a School and is currently marching 80 winds (add in colorguard and percussion), has wind symphony (Higher) Symphonic Band (Middle) and Concert Band (Lowest) ensembles. He also has a big band ensemble. Theater makes his 6th class. He wants to add a 2nd jazz ensemble but that would mean giving up his planning period. So ya pretty much a full time High school director with theater thrown in.

It's funny because I used to tell the director of bands at the university I was TD for that they should force music ed students to take a technical theater class. He said he woudl love to but Music Ed is already a 5 year degree and they students have no time already. My girlfriend is director of bands for a christian school (Middle school and high school) who got 2 degrees (Piano performance and Music Ed). From dating her I totally know that Music Ed students are way busy but I think that it would help them appreciate what happens backstage. My friend in the crappy situation has asked me 3 or 4 times why he never learned any of this stuff in college. Funny stuff.
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It's funny because I used to tell the director of bands at the university I was TD for that they should force music ed students to take a technical theater class.
Great advice, and I recommend it to folks on both sides of the fence. Technicians are a lot more understanding of the actors after they've been in the lights, and performers tend to be much more respectful after they've done a stint backstage.
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