Anyone who currently has a two-scene preset console or an Express with no moving lights in the forseeable future, and for whom $4000 is a major expense, would be served by the Element....In my opinion, no one should be "striving" to get an Element. ...
250 or 500 channels doesn't seem that limiting to me, particularly in light of the fact that one moving light only counts as one channel. 1024 outputs also seems like a very high number to those with 48 or even 96 dimmers.
Anyone who currently has a two-scene preset console or an Express with no moving lights in the forseeable future, and for whom $4000 is a major expense, would be served by the Element.
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250 or 500 channels doesn't seem that limiting to me, particularly in light of the fact that one moving light only counts as one channel. 1024 outputs also seems like a very high number to those with 48 or even 96 dimmers.
I'm not sure where you got your Chamsys price list from but having just aquired an MQ100Pro I can safely say they are not $4000. The USB Mini Wing is about $1800, the PC Wing is around $4K, the Maxi Wing is closer to $8K and none of these are even consoles. My MQ100Pro was a hair under $20K. That said, I'm not totally sure why to OP would have enough money to buy multiple MAC2Ks but not enough to buy more than an Element. If I were him I would sooner buy Mac700s or some other selection of more affordable lights and then get a nicer board (Ion with wings or even nicer than than) which he won't instantly outgrow.Well Mr. Eos/Ion, I agree and disagree with you.
Anyone who currently has a two-scene preset console or an Express with no moving lights in the forseeable future, and for whom $4000 is a major expense, would be served by the Element.
250 or 500 channels doesn't seem that limiting to me, particularly in light of the fact that one moving light only counts as one channel. 1024 outputs also seems like a very high number to those with 48 or even 96 dimmers.
FortMacTech, my guess is that I would not want to run more than a dozen MLs on an Element, but as avalentino said, it depends on the types of shows you do. Sounds like it's an R&R-type venue, so perhaps Element is not the right choice, but I don't know of a (new) $4000 console solution, except perhaps possibly one of the ChamSys MagicQ consoles. I don't think anything in the Hog, MA, Maxxyz, or Vista families start that low, unless a PC with wings solution (not necessarily anything wrong with that). On the used market, a HogII/1000 or Pearl (there I said it!) would likely be great for you. What are you using now?
I'm curious about your acquisition of MAC2000s (wash, profile, or performance?) as they seem to be so out of the league of the rest of your gear. I would think something with a 575w discharge lamp would be more appropriate. Tons of MAC 500, 550, Entours, Kryptons, etc. always available on the used market.
The prices are, I suspect, no longer valid, but should serve for comparison. These were one vendor's prices prior to 7/1/09, MSRP somewhat higher.
Element 40, 250 Channels … … … … … … $ 4,087.50
ETC ION 1000 … … … … … … … … … … … … $ 5,062.50
ETC Universal Fader Wing 2x20… … … … … $ 1,725.00
Same number of subs as Element… … … … $ 6,787.50
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