I'm trying to help a church get into basic stage lighting. The budget sounds like under $1000 for control, but they haven't specified a number. They want to be able to light regular services, some drama (?!?), and possibly concerts. I'm pretty well versed in programmable consoles from the Express/ion up to GrandMA, and I've done the software route, but I've never really paid attention to the 2-Scene market, at least not in recent years. Software is certainly an option, but most of the operation is done by untrained individuals who are not always the most computer savvy. I haven't ruled out ideas like MagicQ, but I'm not so sure I want to help with the support end. I'm very familiar with the Leprechaun series of consoles, and I like them. I've had one for shop work for years and it's taken plenty of abuse. I was browsing Ebay, and wondered if anyone might have any other suggestions. Reading online specs and manuals for DJ gear is painful. Why, oh why, can't they just list maximum channels? So: - budget of under $1k - easy for a novice to learn - simple control of conventional and LED PARs - I'd like 100+ channels, but the more the merrier. 98 channel Leprechaun works great I saw several Chauvet consoles, and Beherenger. I'm very familiar with both of those companies, so I'm a little hesitant. Any experience with their boards? How about Lightronics?