DOT2 Core, wholesale price is Slightly less than $7900, which is what I would expect a production house would have paid for it 2 years ago. Now 2 years later what is it worth? It is in excellent condition.It depends on what it is. You're confusing price for value. Different consoles depreciate at different rates, so there isn't just a flat rate you can apply and be done with it.
Retail pricing is $12,800, MAP is $8295, Wholesale (Cost for the production house) is actually $7796, so how could you list one that is two years old and has an expired warranty for $15,000? That does not make sense, so please explain your logic. Why would anybody buy something two years old for $15k, that they can buy brand new for $12.8K? This is NOT a full size MA, Nor MA Light or MA Ultra Light. This is for the MA Dot2 Core.If I were a Retail Production house I would list it at 15k. But like it has been said there is no formula to it.
Do you mean you'd pay less for a used Scrimmer than for a used Leprecon?It depends on what it is. You're confusing price for value. Different consoles depreciate at different rates, so there isn't just a flat rate you can apply and be done with it.
Discussing pricing details, even two years old, on a public forum is considered poor form.
Discussing pricing details, even two years old, on a public forum is considered poor form.
Depends what happened in the last two years!
(always has to be a reason a seller is selling something.)
Its going for 8600 retail. 2 years old... no real warranty.... 4k-5k? Selling used stuff is tough right now. http://www.solarisnetwork.com/search_results.php?sq=Dot2
Depends what happened in the last two years!
(always has to be a reason a seller is selling something.)
Lol, this comment is so old I had to use google to understand it. Well played sir.Do you mean you'd pay less for a used Scrimmer than for a used Leprecaun?
Toodleoo!
Ron Hebbard.
A) What is it worth now or conversely B) How much would it have depreciated from it's original purchase price (25%, 40%, more)?
If you don't ask the question how are you supposed to get the answer? I tried to get an answer without being too specific and got nothing useful back as an answer.
He's talking about dealer cost. MAP and Retail are considered public pricing, but dealer cost is confidential. Not that it doesn't get discussed from time to time, but shouldn't be brought up in a public forum. It's irrelevant to this conversation though. What it costs a dealer to purchase the equipment is an irrelevant number for a customer. The time, labor, overhead, warranty, and technical support staff required for having a business with dealerships and representing a product line that requires deep technical knowledge means that anyone who sells any product has to charge good money for what they sell. You generally shouldn't pay more than MAP unless you're working with a dealer who goes long and far out of their way to support you, but you should never hold it against a dealer when they buy a product for $5000 and sell it to you for $6000. This is all to say that just because the dealer paid $xxxx for it doesn't mean you should feel entitled to pay less than that.
Having some hours on the console and no warranty certainly depreciates the value below MAP. Consoles in general don't depreciate much until they are made obsolete. They're taken pretty good care of. Until they become teenagers the hardware stays in pretty good condition. The advent of consoles being built at least somewhat on stock PC hardware also means if the power supply, hard drive, or motherboard blows up, usually the console is still salvageable without a huge amount of expense.
There was a stretch of time where you could still get $6k for a used 15 year-old ETC Express console because people loved them so much. Then Element hit the market and the price tanked. You could give the console away but that was about it. Anyone willing to spend $3k on a used, crusty old console was willing to scrape together another $1500 for something brand new. Thus, the used market for Express consoles imploded and most people found more value in having a back-up console sitting in a closet than selling off their Express for $500.
If MAP actually is what you say it is, $8295, somewhere in the $5000 +/- $500 is what I would expect to spend on a 2 year old, almost brand new console, technically relevant, without warranty. More if it comes with a road case, external monitors, cables, nodes, etc.
That's what I would expect off of the bat. As for how saturated the market is with these things, how many people want to buy them, and how many people are trying to get rid of them, that will shift prices up or down accordingly.
In that same vein, if you can pick up an Element 40/250 for $4500 new, then it stands to reason that you would pay a bit more than that for a superior, 4096-channel console with a few hours on it.
Word @microstar , ya know the advice that you shouldn't thwack a hornet's nest with a stick, just take it that you have been warned.Ron, you were a day early with your "Leprecaun" reference . The lighting manufacturer is spelled "Leprecon".
I'm sorry but I'm not understanding.Word @microstar , ya know the advice that you shouldn't thwack a hornet's nest with a stick, just take it that you have been warned.
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