Smoke machine needs fire dept. approval ?

Jay Ashworth · Jul 17, 2016

SteveB said:
And as well. The NYFD person is already making their rate for the day, the $420 goes to the city.

Is that the case?

I would have assumed it was akin to PD 'paid detail', where the office is off-duty, and gets a cut of the hourly, the department acting, essentially, as a booking agency.

Some cops make more off paid detail than they do in salary; it's been somewhat of a scandal some places.

SteveB · Jul 18, 2016

They charge $210 for a permit with an NYFD Explosives unit member doing the inspection. That $210 is for a standard 9-5 time slot. If you can't do it until after normal hours, they charge $400 something, which I assume goes to pay the OT of the inspector.

Jay Ashworth · Jul 18, 2016

You're talking about permit inspection now. We were both talking about firewatch previously.

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SteveB · Jul 18, 2016

Well I've been talking both.

You need a permit, which can either be a one-time for $210 or the $400 something if after normal hours, or you can get a monthly permit that covers a variety of different devices.

And you need a licensed fire watch person for all listed device usage. That's a test and $75. No idea if it's yearly, as we are still awaiting our Public Safety office response on this issue thus I back burner'ed it for the time being

billn · Sep 15, 2016

MNicolai said:
Well that's a new one. Apparently my phone tries to correct hazers to gazers.

In my region you'll primarily hear 3 terms for atmospheric effects. Haze, Fog, and Ground Fog. Ground Fog is chilled, hangs at the floor, while standard Fog just bursts up into the air but is denser than haze.

The reason I differentiate these effects from "smoke" is first, because smoke freaks some people out, and second, because performers who hear smoke go all psychosomatic and start coughing up a fit, not realizing it's a water or oil-based effect which bears no relation to what you'll find in a true cloud of dust or smoke.

The liquid probably does not contain any oil based component, as breathing such liquid vapors can cause lipid pneumonia.

Both glycerin and propylene glycol are alcohols.

techieman33 · Sep 15, 2016

billn said:
The liquid probably does not contain any oil based component, as breathing such liquid vapors can cause lipid pneumonia.

Both glycerin and propylene glycol are alcohols.

Hazers such as the DF-50 are oil based. They use mineral oil to create the effect.

Van · Sep 15, 2016

billn said:
...Both glycerin and propylene glycol are alcohols.

glycerin can be dissolved in alcohol. It is Not an alcohol. If it were, you most likely wouldn't need to remove it from Bio-diesel.

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