How safe does this look? Balcony Rail mounting

Thank you all for your input. Once I find the right people to talk to I'll bring the suggestions up. I'm hoping I can show them I'm knowledgeable enough (and know the right people to ask when I don't know) to get them steered to the direction again. I have time to volunteer to take a lead, at least on the lighting side, so we'll see what happens. From those that I have talked with I think it will be welcomed.
 
The one photo I'd like to see but haven't yet, is the *back* of those hang-over straps, on the back side of the balcony wall.

Is that bolted through the structure, that I see on the front face?

But yeah, that spot where the pipe's welded to the top of the strap would be the thing that gave *me* the galloping heebie-jeebies.
 
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This is all speculation but that flat bar looks thicker than the pipe wall from the photo, and much thicker than 1/8 or 3/16. I'd suggest measuring instead it eyeing it but I suspect it's at least 1/4", if not 3/8" or more, which isn't bad for 90 pounds (3 ft of batten). Measure the pipe diameter also - outside - but c-clamp makes it look like 1.25" (nominal or inside diameter, near 1.6" od). One bolt per bracket is a concern, where the front one is located it's probably into a 2x10 that is bolted to a plate girder in the balcony rail. Often not much ferrous metal in this era of theatre structures.

I am not saying don't draw attention to the issue, and a qualified person - a registered design professional - should review it - but for your future credibility - don't draw a line in the sand claiming it's absolutely deficient based on this thread.

I was not far from you a few weeks ago and will keep that in mind if I make that trip again.
 
This is all speculation but that flat bar looks thicker than the pipe wall from the photo, and much thicker than 1/8 or 3/16. I'd suggest measuring instead it eyeing it but I suspect it's at least 1/4", if not 3/8" or more, which isn't bad for 90 pounds (3 ft of batten). Measure the pipe diameter also - outside - but c-clamp makes it look like 1.25" (nominal or inside diameter, near 1.6" od). One bolt per bracket is a concern, where the front one is located it's probably into a 2x10 that is bolted to a plate girder in the balcony rail. Often not much ferrous metal in this era of theatre structures.

I am not saying don't draw attention to the issue, and a qualified person - a registered design professional - should review it - but for your future credibility - don't draw a line in the sand claiming it's absolutely deficient based on this thread.

I was not far from you a few weeks ago and will keep that in mind if I make that trip again.


Thanks Bill,

I forgot to grab my tape measure last night but I agree after taking another look it is 1/4" or more flat stock. It is 1.25" pipe. I'm not as worried as I initially was thanks to this conversation. It has been that way for decades but it still needs to be addressed for audience sightlines, practical use and safety in the long run. There is no physical connection to the structure as the straps just wrap over the top and a bolt is ran on the back side 'clamping' it to the balcony. The only picture I didn't take last night of course but will tonight. Thanks again
 
Well, how long, what size, and what type is the bolt, and what is it into, are all relevant questions. I think if you pulled off that top plate or cap, and the trim under it, you'd find a heavy 2X bolted to a plate girder or something like that, and if its a lag bolt a few inches into that, it can be pretty strong.

Maybe there is an architect or engineer on the board that will look at it and put an opinion - in writing. The nearest small office (like one or two person home office) structural engineer would be great.
 
3/8 flat stock. Feel much better.

Here the back side
 

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