Automated Fixtures Jands Stage CL..... Moving heads?

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The school that my daughter has recently purchased a full rig of gear for their new PAC. It is not a large rig but it is a good start.
For their rehearsal/Drama room they purchased a Jands Stage CL console. My question is will this console do moving lights. The guy at the school who has no clues about lighting (he is more of an audio bloke) wants to put some moving washes in the drama room and use the Jands there.
Their other board is a ETC Element 40.
From what I have seen on the web the Jands will not do what they want it to. I think they should return the Jands and get a nomad set up and keep it all the same. Educational will be about $400au for them.

The rest of their rig is 20 profiles 12/8 different zooms 12 Frensels 12 LED par wash 8 secondhand Robe Colour spot 1200 and 4 moving head wash lights Terbly 108A-R.

Anyway the Jands Stage CL is what I need to know about.
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Geoff
 
Well, any console that outputs DMX can do moving lights, its all just dmx. The question is does it do it well, and give you the tools to make it easy. A cursory glance at the spec sheet makes it seem like the console is set up for a small LED wash rig, with little gimmicks along those lines (hue and saturation encoders? Ok...) So maybe it would be fine? At worst programing a few basic looks might take longer than on a better featured console, but it should work. I would not want to use it for any kind of full show though.

PC/Laptop rigs are nice and light, but come with their own issues (I had a damn windows "your anti-virus is up to date" notification pop and ding in the middle of a show last night, ughh) An ETC guy would know better, but it seems like having a Nomad rig to work along with the Element would be a neat tool anyway.

Im more curious why they would waste high budget moving head units on a rehearsal space? I'd imagine they'll be pointed in the same spot and turned white and all the way up, 90% of the time.
 
It doesn't look like it's designed with moving lights in mind, and I'd avoid using them on it. That being said, I'd also avoid using them on nomad, especially in a school environment, especially without a programming wing. You might find it beneficial to look into a cognito2 for your uses.
 
I have tried it and I can just say dont do it. If you have hours and hours to spend building scenes you can maybe run 4 decent movers off of it but you will move at a glacial pace and think WTF far too many times to count.

The stage CL is a great for small rigs with some LED and dimmers but is not designed in any way shape or form for running movers.
 
Thanks That is what I thought.
The other option for the Nomad setup is move their element as required. It is not that hard.
 
The Stage CL is good at one thing, and one thing only:

Banging out very quick shows with static LED lights with a few dimmers.

It's actually pretty nice for basic corporate stuff, seeing as each channel has physical hue and saturation controls.

However, even by those standards it's quite an anemic console. On lights that are included in the default library, the largest channel modes (the ones with the highest number of DMX channels per fixture) are conspicuously missing from this console.
 
The Stage CL is great for super little stuff but sooooo frustrating once you've moved from little to small. Can't even program a few strip lights because of the artificial "fixture" count limitations.
I say fixture in quotes because it doesn't have a channel limit, but an 8 cel striplight counts as 8 fixtures, not 1 segmented strip.
 

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