Strange vintage lights
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G-30 lamp, 250w version is discontinued, now only 400w version available. Under / over vent slots without a brand stamp. Is not persay old, in intitial thughts Altman but 1960's or later in initial thoughts. Can define the brand/year with more info in possibly not altman given the lack of markings. Where you are located will help define who re-sold it or made it. Clearly a later generation of box spot if of help.
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Most likely Capitol Stage Lighting (left that catalogue at work, but will look for it's part number tomorrow) - gray texture paint as per Capitol. Same design as the Altman #101 4.1/2" Box Spot. Approximately c. 1950-62 for date.
Box spots don't normally have reflectors - the filament of the G-30 lamp was too large and lamps especially screw based lamps were normally too in-accurate in seating to the screw base to center properly on a reflector short of being able to adjust the lamp base.
It was an option only and I only have one out of sixteen of various brands of box spot with a reflector. You will get more light with tinfoil, but loose out optically.
Some larger and more expensive PC fixtures had adjustable for height and left and right lamp bases - even adjustable reflectors.
Normally PC's with a screw base lamp socket didn't have a reflector. See update to my Pevear tonight for more info on lamp sockets / reflectors on PC fixtures.
A box spot was a economy low wattage short throw wash light, or kind of like a par can in banks, would be put on a sort of roataing truss like structure to rotate perhaps one color or another.
Box spots don't normally have reflectors - the filament of the G-30 lamp was too large and lamps especially screw based lamps were normally too in-accurate in seating to the screw base to center properly on a reflector short of being able to adjust the lamp base.
It was an option only and I only have one out of sixteen of various brands of box spot with a reflector. You will get more light with tinfoil, but loose out optically.
Some larger and more expensive PC fixtures had adjustable for height and left and right lamp bases - even adjustable reflectors.
Normally PC's with a screw base lamp socket didn't have a reflector. See update to my Pevear tonight for more info on lamp sockets / reflectors on PC fixtures.
A box spot was a economy low wattage short throw wash light, or kind of like a par can in banks, would be put on a sort of roataing truss like structure to rotate perhaps one color or another.
Box spots retro or cool? Tinfoil than do them than. Out of bench focus by 1/8" Too high, but managable for a A-19 lamp as a prop light. Have seen them painted gold and bar display. Heck in the past I even lit my center work table with them using 50w/12v MR-16/G-5.3 base lamps in total modification. Cool?
Ok, completely obsolete fixture unless you are on stage attempting to get a PC image of something "grainy" in image like, and old time. The box spot doesn't have the wattage for much punch, and short of frosting the heck out of it, is't of much use for it's beam.
What I cannot see is this as an attractive end table fixture.... It's a box spot, it is not very artistic for decoration. Asbestos out of the home and lamp socket replaced or re-surfaced, and re-wired and grounded... sure prop light, and you might be able to find a Fresnel lens over tin foil to better spread the light.
And as an open platform - once the asbestos is removed a platform light to put any modern lamp into for a prop light. Allexa turn to blue. Go for it in otherwise such lights going to scrap.
Ok, completely obsolete fixture unless you are on stage attempting to get a PC image of something "grainy" in image like, and old time. The box spot doesn't have the wattage for much punch, and short of frosting the heck out of it, is't of much use for it's beam.
What I cannot see is this as an attractive end table fixture.... It's a box spot, it is not very artistic for decoration. Asbestos out of the home and lamp socket replaced or re-surfaced, and re-wired and grounded... sure prop light, and you might be able to find a Fresnel lens over tin foil to better spread the light.
And as an open platform - once the asbestos is removed a platform light to put any modern lamp into for a prop light. Allexa turn to blue. Go for it in otherwise such lights going to scrap.
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@StradivariusBone Am I seeing an LED, and if so, why clear rather than frosted??
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"It would seem we have a difference of opinion." That Fresnel should be lighting some theater group. On the other hand, lenses cost money - a 6" Fresnel lens costs probably over $30.00 - like two lamps in cost. Better to be used, than scrapped.. but more decorative lights are out there for a home prop.
I have six fresnels. a dozen 6x9 Leko's and four PAR 64, fully restored which would be a perfect start to a store front theater. I am holding out for that verses viable fixtures going decorative... This granted I did convert a large amount of L&E 6x16 to prop light A-19 in donation sales so as to get rid of them. Even converted with 1.5" spacer, the only 4x5x6.5 Hub leko I have ever seen, to A-19 color changing LED. For the client, and there is four more to service for the museum, and three more among other fixtures to donate once done.
Goals for me as always in servicing their lights... Client gets's first, Museum second, than back to client or donation if they don't want the rest of the fixtures. At times, in none of the rest works for further use - the L&E 6x16 Leko's converted to A-19 100w reveal lamps... they sold well in donation pricing to the theater they came from. A shame, but mostly a useless class of Leko for even giving away. My thoughts at least in as opposed to a 6" Fresnel still viable - better it's not in a scrap yard, but more usefule in not decorative as prop light, and some theater might find use for it, if even afford it's lens replacement.
"My Kingdom for another Leko"! Still a concept in some don't have enough or any Fresnels in proper working condition. Even if they cannot afford to replace the lens, perhaps they have one in the bone yard with a bad lamp socket. Perhaps they could dish washer their lens with your cleaned and re-surfaced lamp socket, or extra lamp socket provided by me.
Just a thought in another Fresnel to some theater trying to make art, as opposed to table lamp, in you can certainly find more decorative fixtures in doing this table art.
Just a thought in not Steam Punk concept - just an example to the point of a modern light someone else once theater's open, could make use of in making art.
I have six fresnels. a dozen 6x9 Leko's and four PAR 64, fully restored which would be a perfect start to a store front theater. I am holding out for that verses viable fixtures going decorative... This granted I did convert a large amount of L&E 6x16 to prop light A-19 in donation sales so as to get rid of them. Even converted with 1.5" spacer, the only 4x5x6.5 Hub leko I have ever seen, to A-19 color changing LED. For the client, and there is four more to service for the museum, and three more among other fixtures to donate once done.
Goals for me as always in servicing their lights... Client gets's first, Museum second, than back to client or donation if they don't want the rest of the fixtures. At times, in none of the rest works for further use - the L&E 6x16 Leko's converted to A-19 100w reveal lamps... they sold well in donation pricing to the theater they came from. A shame, but mostly a useless class of Leko for even giving away. My thoughts at least in as opposed to a 6" Fresnel still viable - better it's not in a scrap yard, but more usefule in not decorative as prop light, and some theater might find use for it, if even afford it's lens replacement.
"My Kingdom for another Leko"! Still a concept in some don't have enough or any Fresnels in proper working condition. Even if they cannot afford to replace the lens, perhaps they have one in the bone yard with a bad lamp socket. Perhaps they could dish washer their lens with your cleaned and re-surfaced lamp socket, or extra lamp socket provided by me.
Just a thought in another Fresnel to some theater trying to make art, as opposed to table lamp, in you can certainly find more decorative fixtures in doing this table art.
Just a thought in not Steam Punk concept - just an example to the point of a modern light someone else once theater's open, could make use of in making art.
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