Alec Baldwin involved in accidental shooting death on set of "Rust"

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New report in says that the gun was tested and could not Accidentally fire without pulling the trigger as Baldwin claimed happened.
 

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I can't stand it when people don't fess up to their mistakes. Was it an accidental shooting? I believe so. Was it preventable through common practice? Absolutely. Should there be consequences? Without a doubt. Lying just makes it worse and is shameful.
 

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I can't stand it when people don't fess up to their mistakes. Was it an accidental shooting? I believe so. Was it preventable through common practice? Absolutely. Should there be consequences? Without a doubt. Lying just makes it worse and is shameful.
I think it's hard to prove it's lying. If you are an actor and don't believe the gun could possibly fire a live round and suddenly it does there could a fair bit of initial trauma that messes with your memory of what happened. "I didn't intend to kill that person" could morph into "I didn't pull the trigger" when you re-sort your mental rolodex of how things transpired.

It's also entirely possible he did lie, but I could just as easily see someone in his position 2nd and 3rd-guessing what they thought transpired and it's definitely more psychologically challenging to process that you were just at fault for unintentionally killing someone.
 

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Sure that is possible. Most people are apt to make something up to evade consequences. If everyone was completely honest, our justice system would be a lot different.
 

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I didn't buy "I didn't pull the trigger" as guns really don't just randomly go off. At the same time, I have a hard time calling him a liar. Given the faulty nature of human memory, there's a good chance he either does not remember what happened or his brain sort of rewrote that memory for his own mental protection.

All of that said, I don't blame Baldwin the actor for what happened. He was trusting the proven safety system to work. However Baldwin the producer should have been aware about all of the issues we have read about with the budget, the track record of the AD on safety, the overworked props staff, and the inexperienced armorer. For those reasons, I do believe he should be held accountable.
 

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Settled as Alec Baldwin, PRODUCER. An essential happening in order to either finish Rust or close the books on it.
 

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Yeah. I'm not very comfortable with this. The family of Hilayna Hutchins have settled their lawsuit, her Husband is now a producer on the film, the director who also was shot is back on the project, and they are trying to pull everyone back in to finish shooting the film in January. I'm happy that the family is satisfied with the results, but to me it feels dirty. Like they are just turning a tragedy into a money maker. I won't be paying to see it.
 

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I can't imagine the tension walking onto that site. No matter what the family/husband say about being comfortable with the outcome and with production moving forward, it has got to feel awful being there. I HOPE that they'll take it slow and right after this.
 

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Yeah. I'm not very comfortable with this. The family of Hilayna Hutchins have settled their lawsuit, her Husband is now a producer on the film, the director who also was shot is back on the project, and they are trying to pull everyone back in to finish shooting the film in January. I'm happy that the family is satisfied with the results, but to me it feels dirty. Like they are just turning a tragedy into a money maker. I won't be paying to see it.
Working theory I've heard is that by making her husband a producer he can pick up the royalties and assuming the movie actually makes any money, he may have some degree of income over time from the movie. Not sure how that will all actually play out but it seems like there's some Hollywood accounting going on here.
 

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Working theory I've heard is that by making her husband a producer he can pick up the royalties and assuming the movie actually makes any money, he may have some degree of income over time from the movie. Not sure how that will all actually play out but it seems like there's some Hollywood accounting going on here.
This was my interpretation as well. I have to imagine there is some kind of profit-sharing agreement in place.
 

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