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Alright, let's have a products you want to see for audio thread

Discussion in 'Sound, Music, and Intercom' started by Eboy87, Sep 6, 2006.

  1. Eboy87

    Eboy87 Well-Known Member

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    Ship, if I may borrow your idea; since the light guys (and girls) have a thread like this:

    What audio products would you like to see made?

    Personally, I'd love to see a console that blends the best of digital and analog. What I mean is have the audio chain be analog, like most crest, or Soundcraft boards, but control the desk digitally, i.e., full recallable EQ, auxs, scenes, etc., and have some built in efx and such. Heck, let's also have it interface with Clear-Com or Telex, or whatever you use for com, so you dont have to have an extra pack and accessories to talk to others.

    Oh, and let's price it so the small guys can get it, and not be driven into debt.

    I have no idea if it's been made already, but I thought of it last night (well, technically, it was this morning, but anyway).
     
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  2. soundlight

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    A CD player that has a tabletop remote with the clock visible. Not a DJ CD player, those are too big. Just a regular rack CD player with a small (4" by 6" would be good) remote that has play, stop, pause, and skip buttons, as well as a nice sized LED or LCD display with the timer on it. This would be able to sit right on your console wrist rest under the unused channels, or right off to the side. The buttons would have big icons that would take up the whole button. And it wouldn't be that hard to do. Even better, give it MIDI out with a MIDI clock based on the track time.
     
  3. audioslavematt

    audioslavematt Active Member

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    I would like a small box, about the size of a DI, that transforms into whatever I need at the moment. Need a SM58? Boom there it is. Need a iso transformer? Boom there it is.
     
  4. mbenonis

    mbenonis Wireless Guy Administrator

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    This remote should be wired to avoid problems.

    I personally want to see an XLR connector that's as easy to wire (read: that doesn't require soldering) as a Speakon connector. Same for TRS.

    That and a wireless mic system that has really good filtering and a wide RF bandwidth.
     
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    soundlight Well-Known Member

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    I agree that the remote for my request should be wired. That was my idea for it, as wireless wouldn't do the clock reliably, in my opinion.
     
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    There are XLR's that don't use soldering they known as IDC ( insulation displacement connector?) you just push the wire on to them. Like in telephone jackpoints.
     
  7. SHARYNF

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    The closest thing to what you are looking for, and not exactly there in terms of analog is the Yamaha 01v96. It has found its way in to a lot of lower end pro setups, the trick is that it supports additional channels of adat interface and there are some inexpensive mic to adat interfaces, so it is possible to build it up a bit input wise.
    http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA...CNTID=15247&CTID=228600&CNTYP=PRODUCT,00.html

    Standard is 12 mics pre's in, but also has an adat in so can get to 20 for about another 250 dollars (behringer ada8000)

    http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHADA8000
    and you can then add another 16 inputs to get to 36 mics with routing recall effects etc. The basic board is with the discounters about 2200 dollars, then you add the 16 channel adat for about 500 and two of the mic preamps for about 450 and so for a little over three grand you are pretty capable system. Sorry no clear com, I don't recommend even running your clear com thru your snake unless it is just a drive snake for line level feeds to amps etc.

    But the 01v96 does come pretty close


    Sharyn
     
  8. Peter

    Peter Well-Known Member

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    I would like speakers (mains) with easliy and widely adjustable throw paterns so you could easily customise the speakers for the venue and obtain a good stereo image regardless of your setup relative to the room.
     
  9. Eboy87

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    As far as I understand the 01, and keep in mind that I've never downloaded the manual, but once the signal goes through the preamps, doesn't it go through AD converters? That would mean that from that point, to the DA converters at the end that it is a digital signal chain inside the mixer. I was referring to a desk where the only AD/DA converting would be for things like reverb and other EFX, the rest of the circuit is all analog.

    I have used the 01 before, and find it great for it's price, but one thing I don't like about most of the digital boards out there (and I can't say I've used any other than the 01), is the layering to get to the digital ins.

    Gotta run to class, just my opinion, take it for what it's worth, and please, correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  10. SHARYNF

    SHARYNF Well-Known Member

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    You are correct re the digital/ analog
    The soundcraft digital 328 http://www.soundcraft.com/product_sheet.asp?product_id=38

    sort of did more along the lines of what you are looking for but the problems with that design and to a certain degree with what you are talking about is it is diffucult for instance to put dynamics on each input unless you convert to digital,

    the soundcraft is no longer in production, they sell for about the same as a fully configed 01v96, the main issues were lack of dynamics on inputs, and lack of an on board control for recall, it used midi from an external source
    It did try to reduce the layering

    Sharyn
     
  11. Peter

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    Really... what you want is something with A to D converters and D to A coverters that are so good that you cant tell they are there! And really... if you know how to use digital equipment it can really sound almost as good as analog. Think about it... every CD you have ever listened to has been extensively emersed in the digital realm. Most of the time, if you have really good preamps and good A2D coverters, and remember to keep your gain down on your preamps and just boost the output gain you can get really good sound, but I digress... this is a wishlist...
     
  12. Eboy87

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    I think you may be right Peter, but it was 3 in the morning when i thought of it, and it seemed like a good idea at the time. On the AD/DA conversion, I think DiGiCo's are great. I have a buddy back home that works for a church that uses a D5. He brought me by one day and I got to play on it for a little while. Absolutly amazing, but then again, the only other digital desk I ever worked with was the little Yammie. Too bad the D5 costs a metric butt load of money. Oh well, off to bed, before I talk myself into trouble.
     
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    EAW already does this with the KF900 series and their smaller DSA. I've also heard that Meyer is going to be releasing something similar in the near future.
     
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    hmm... Robot asst. that automatically finds and fixes any stupid problems like cables forgotten to be plugged in or things not plugged in for power. Maybe a sound board thats fully analog in workings, but can still do effects and cues with voice regoniition software...plus an iced tea dispenser and something that can zap actors that decide to turn their mics off and then blame you when they arent heard.
     
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    QFT If I had a dollar for everytime that has happened to me I could not show up for a few work sessions. I'll add that feature to my magic box.
     
  16. SHARYNF

    SHARYNF Well-Known Member

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    so you want the 48,000 volt phantom power option ;-)

    Sharyn
     
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    Peter Well-Known Member

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    So it would seem.. but 48,000 Volt WIRELESS phantom power :)
     
  18. SHARYNF

    SHARYNF Well-Known Member

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    then you need the individual wireless Sennimobolizer IEM monitor 48 uhf channel agile taser system. ;-0

    Sharyn
     
  19. soundlight

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    Now where could I find one of those? It'd be nice to be able to make actors have convulsionson stage!

    No, but really, actors need to figure out how they work...I put duct tape over all of the switches when we do mic check so that the actors can't turn them off.
    </hijack>
     
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    avkid Not a New User Fight Leukemia

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    I'll have to add that to my conversion tables!
     

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