Anyone know the real name for "horse <rooster>" or "donkey <Richard>"?

[reggie98]

Having worked in multiple hotels here in NYC. I agree with the above comments that they are looking for bare copper from you to tie into their power drop.

Horse**** refers to a stick of 4/0 feeder cable.

 

[MSwan]

Finally talked to the venue and they are in fact literally dropping 60A 3phase, 5 wire bare copper ends for me to attach to my distro... pretty sure I've seen it all now.

 

[derekleffew]

...As a side note, a company I used to work for used those 50A twist(Cali plug) to power the motor controls (3 phase), we used Skjonberg controllers, I liked them alot...

Lookit what was included in today's rigging package:


The pictured assembly (which BTW we didn't use, as we had a distro providing multiple 50A females) using a California female, 6/4 SO cord, and E1016-style Cam-Lok s is NOT code-compliant for at least two reasons. What might those be?

 

[shiben]

Lookit what was included in today's rigging package:
View attachment 4900

The pictured assembly (which BTW we didn't use, as we had a distro providing multiple 50A females) using a California female, 6/4 SO cord, and E1016-style Cam-Lok s is NOT code-compliant for at least two reasons. What might those be?

Dont the cams need a proper breakout to fan like that?

 

[zmb]

Lookit what was included in today's rigging package:
View attachment 4900

The pictured assembly (which BTW we didn't use, as we had a distro providing multiple 50A females) using a California female, 6/4 SO cord, and E1016-style Cam-Lok s is NOT code-compliant for at least two reasons. What might those be?

No over current protection between the cams and plug designed for 50A that could be supplied with 400A?

 

[derekleffew]

Dont the cams need a proper breakout to fan like that?

Can you expound some?

No over current protection between the cams and plug designed for 50A that could be supplied with 400A?

Kudos; I hadn't thought of that one. NEC 520.69(A) Adapters: No reduction in current rating. Okay, three reasons.

 

[Chris15]

The single insulation is so pretty.

Oh I know I know... It didn't come supplied with it's own fire extinguisher. That's gotta be it.

 

[gafftapegreenia]

The inner conductors of SOOW are not intended to be exposed in that manner.

 

[Dionysus]

Here and actually with many electricians, "Horse cock" or "donkey cock" is usually a term used to refer to a Kellems Grip. Hell I know electricians who if you say "kellems grip" they have NO IDEA what you are talking about.
I've certainly never heard it as a reference to feeder cable itself, but I can certainly see the nickname being transferred in your area. Or even just someone there coming up with calling your feeder that once, and it sticking.

Interesting.

 

[shiben]

Can you expound some?

Kudos; I hadn't thought of that one. NEC 520.69(A) Adapters: No reduction in current rating. Okay, three reasons.

Well it looks as if the jacket is just cut off, the internal conductors fanned out and attached to cams. However, I was under the impression that the insulation on those is more to keep the conductors seperate in the cable, I would assume the jacket on those is not the same as the jacket on the cable. I remember this because the electrical inspector made us throw out some 3 channel mults we had in my old place of employment becuase they broke into individual conductors, then into a connector, instead of a proper breakout section and into SOOJW or something similar for tails.

 

[derekleffew]

Correct, shiben and gafftapegreenia. The third reason I'm thinking of is a little more obscure, but is related, sort of, to zmb's answer.

 

[derekleffew]

...The third reason I'm thinking of ...

What's the smallest wire size the E1016 is designed to accept?

From NEC 110.3(B):

Listed or labeled equipment shall be installed and used in accordance with any instructions in the listing or labeling.

 

[TimMiller]

:neutral:

What's the smallest wire size the E1016 is designed to accept?

8 awg wire

 

[derekleffew]

Is that your final answer?

 

[Sony]

Lookit what was included in today's rigging package:
View attachment 4900

The pictured assembly (which BTW we didn't use, as we had a distro providing multiple 50A females) using a California female, 6/4 SO cord, and E1016-style Cam-Lok s is NOT code-compliant for at least two reasons. What might those be?

The sad part is I've seen these adapters on DOZENS of shows, including both of the Broadway tours that I have worked on in my area and several rental houses. They are very common...

 

[xander]

What's the smallest wire size the E1016 is designed to accept?

E1016 “J” Series – For cable size #2-4/0, 600 volts, rated up to 400 amperes continuous.
(UL listed, CSA certified).

Therefore, the #6AWG is not allowed to be used with the E1016 Cam-Lok connector without voiding the UL listing.

 

[Grog12]

Donkey Dick? You mean pipe insulation? Pipe Insulation, Self Seal, ID 7/8 In - Pipe Insulation - Pipe and Tubing - HVACR : Grainger Industrial Supply

 

[mstaylor]

There is also the matter that white isn't marked as being current carrying instead of a neutral.
Horse cock has always been a big connector, such as,Hubbell Wiring Device-KellemsI have never heard refer to the basket restraints mentioned above.