# Behringer Mixer, DI boxes, and Snakes

#### geezer

##### Member
I just recently purchased a refurbished Behringer Eurodesk SL2442FX-PRO to run sound for a local band. It was about all I could afford. I have not received it yet so I was wondering if anyone has used it or other Behringer mixers, and had any feed back on them.

Also, people have told me that I should have DI boxes for every instrument. Because I am on kind of a tight budget, I was wondering how necessary are they?

geezer

#### BillESC

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I'd suggest Tapco DI boxes as they are quite inexpensive yet well made.

Whirlwind offers a 16/4 imported snake right around your budget.

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#### stantonsound

##### Active Member
DI boxes. These are needed for any instrument that gives you a high impedance or unbalanced signal (usually via a 1/4" plug) and allows you to run it to the board via a low impedance xlr cable. Typically, this is just bass guitar rigs and keyboards. Most bass rigs have these built in, or just stick a mic in front of the cabinet on stage.

Guitars, horns, etc... are almost always mic'd (you put a microphone in front of the instrument or amp on the stage).

Typically, you would never need more than 3 DI's (unless there are 5 keyboards or something really messed up).

The Behringer boards are really not that bad. The biggest problem with them is that they are prone to breaking and weird things happening. I had a small 8 channel that I used to use for little events when I first started and had a problem with bleedover, where the signal from one channel would bleed into the channel next to it. I could not put a loud signal next to a quiet signal on the board, or it would bleed over. If you get a good board, you should be pretty happy with it.

#### SHARYNF

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Tough Decision, the reason why Musicians Friend has it for sale as a refurb is that someone returned it due to a failure, So the question is, is it now fixed to the point that it is better than new, IE the tech's have really gone thru it? Behringer to try to get around a poor quality reputation, started to just offer swaps on failure. I tend to think that in a lot of cases markets do determine the true value of the product, and in the 300is level you sort of get what you pay for. Know where you are coming from, and cost is cost. Personally down in that price range I would probably look on ebay for a good condition used Mackie sr24.4.

The earlier comments from folks re Behringer and mixers is quite true, when they first started out in a big way in mixers they completely copied the mackie design, got in a legal battle, but over time moved to german engineering, with Chinese Manufacturing, which in and of its self is not really an issue but they tended to have poor quality, failures, and what I guess I would call overall engineering issues, where it was not just the circut design but more of the physical design, or the quality of the components etc. There is a classic case where in their DriveRack knock off they failed to properly isolate the circut board from the case, and people had all sorts of problems until users believe it or not put insulating paper between the circuit board bottom and the case.

I also tend to look at cost as acquisition, less what you can sell it for when you upgrade since most of us tend to keep upgrading. In that case I do think that the Mackie will probably hold its value better over time. Up from there but with less inputs would be a Allen an Heath mix wizard. If you were to move to digital the original Yamaha 01v would be an option, but again will less inputs but a lot more functionality.

Sharyn

#### silvrwolf

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In the future I would stay away from refurbished gear unless you have the chance to fully test it to its max before purchase. Even though you can return stuff with problems you may sometimes find yourself with the seller saying that you caused the problems with the equipment and that they wont refund your money. When purchasing used be very careful!!!