# Biggest "bang" for the buck?

#### JLNorthGA

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Our lighting is as follows:
18 Source Fours (various degrees between 19 and 36).
12 Altman 65Q Fresnels
6 barn doors
4 drop in Irises
2 TwinSpin gobo rotators
1 Sensor Rack (SR3-48) with an appropriate number of dimmers for all of the live circuits (27 dimmer modules and 3 constant current modules).
1 Element 40/250 control console

#### josh88

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Ask yourself what you have and what you want to do. Take a look at this, you may find it helpful as far as getting the most for your money (outside of LED)

gafftaper method (this is clickable despite the wiki link not showing up properly.)

#### chausman

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Personally, and without knowing what your goals are with this money (as museav will likely tell you), I'd suggest a few more S4s with Seachangers, DMX Irises, and Right Arms.

Or, if you'r happy with your inventory, you could always try and get a few S4 LEDS. However, with only 2, I'm not sure how useful they would be to you.

#### techieman33

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Personally, and without knowing what your goals are with this money (as museav will likely tell you), I'd suggest a few more S4s with Seachangers, DMX Irises, and Right Arms.
If you can buy a few of those setups for $6k I want to know who your dealer is. If you have enough front lighting I would probably look at getting enough LED units to wash your stage effectively. #### chausman ##### Chase Fight Leukemia If you can buy a few of those setups for$6k I want to know who your dealer is.
I suppose an "or" would be more appropriate then an "and".

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#### JohnD

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In your list I don't see a cyc or the lighting for it, perhaps that would be something to add.
I also agree with jonliles, it would be great to have at least 6 colorchangers at your FOH electric, and 6 for the first electric fresnels. That would give you a great ammount of flexibility in lighting design.

#### LBCSeattle

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In your list I don't see a cyc or the lighting for it, perhaps that would be something to add.
I also agree with jonliles, it would be great to have at least 6 colorchangers at your FOH electric, and 6 for the first electric fresnels. That would give you a great ammount of flexibility in lighting design.
If it is a relatively small space without big throw distances (given the limited inventory I suspect it is) I am not sure if color scrollers are any more cost-effective than LEDs. With the LEDs you are expanding your inventory of luminaires as well as color control. There is also the time and materials to load, maintain, or customize scrolls.

As far as my equipment list, it was a purely off-the-cuff list of items that may improve the versatility of the limited inventory. Here is how it breaks down:
Elation Opti-TriPAR or Chauvet Colorado 1-Tri: @ $5-600 Right arm: @$900
I-cue: @ $600 200w power supply$500 (make sure its compatible with all of your accessories).
Some vendors will give a discount if it is a school or non-profit, or if you are making a decent-sized order together.

You could look for used or stick to the I-cue instead of the Right Arms; you could substitute Apollo scrollers for \$350-400 each instead of the LEDs (but then you are not expanding your inventory of luminaires at the same time); if you host a lot of dance concerts you may want to spend the whole wad on color changers or LEDs. The point is not the specific gear. The point is that it is critical to closely examine your uses and don't get blinded by the bling! Get what will give you - wait for it - the biggest bang for the buck!