Greg Huffman
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So that’s what I pretty much thought but am totally amazed and dumbfounded at the number of these events I see and hear about. Thanks for the reply!
Recently experienced by this school's fundraiser embattled with the Mouse.... never square off against the mouse.
It depends... but your better bet might be to webstream. Today, most performance agreements allow live streaming of a performance, but it cannot be available for replay/download. Ironically I work in a broadcast department for an education institution and that's an easier route for us to go even though we own a broadcast station
It's worth pointing out that Movie Licensing USA is the entity that fined the school. They represent Disney, along with a ton of other companies to provide license to show movies. Most school districts know to acquire this license so that their teachers can show movies and shows in their classrooms. Once the fine became a news story, Bob donated to the organization that was originally fined.
I worry that this sort of gives people permission to disregard copy write laws in schools. I mean, somehow this school did Aliens the stage play, and rather than receive a fine, they got funded to remount it for another weekend and praised for their 'fair use adaptation'.
This irritates me, because I have to constantly be the 'bad guy' when my students ask me to do things like this. I love that they were able to do this, but I'm not willing to risk my job to find out whether or not they'll enforce their fines on me.
Public performance rights granted under compulsory license are usually tied to the *venue*. Both our local PAC and county-owned arena pay compulsory license fees to BMI and ASCAP and possibly others. They can recoup some or all of these from clients that use the facilities. Synchronization must be deliberate; i.e. if the video camera mic just picks up the music, it's likely to be considered "wild", but if video person is sent a feed from a mixer, it is synch'd. Learned this working for Showtime boxing... no incidental music in my primary audio feed to the truck - they played all the cleared, 'synchronized' music in a feed back to me as well as broadcast. When it was time for the undercard fighters to do their ring walks, the music was picked up by the announcer's microphones so was "wild".Definitely not my area of expertise but leads me to some questions I’ve always wondered about and please tell me if I need to post it somewhere else or just ignore. They relate to dance competitions and recitals (both my daughters danced in that world). Specifically the music that’s simply pulled and cut, sometimes remixed slightly, to put into the 2-3 minute format used in the dance. It’s often recorded and later sold to parents and often live-streamed as well. YouTube is full of videos that the choreographer s are making money from. Legally speaking who’s responsible? The choreographer? Dancer? Dance school? Venue? Also does YouTube enforce
Synchronization must be deliberate; i.e. if the video camera mic just picks up the music, it's likely to be considered "wild", [ ... ]
YouTube moves pretty fast to take down clips for copyright infringement when there is a complaint... but you'd have to get an answer from them as to what does and does not justify a take-down.
tiny bit of reference matl - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/live-streaming-video-is-it-legal_b_59a6d4e9e4b08299d89d0b3eDoes anyone know the legality surrounding broadcasting school choral/band/orchestra concerts?
My school district has a public access channel for district specific events, and I am attempting to find out how to get approval (and from whom) to put the various concerts on this channel. I have heard from others in the past that the companies don't bother with high schools, but that answer isn't really sufficient for me or my district. Before we move our discussion along, I want to find out how to be 100% legal; as an artist myself, I also have a strong desire to ensure royalties and compensation are made appropriately.
If you have any information, please send it my way!
there is another group that focuses on public performance in Houses of Worship
I'm pretty sure the Alphabet legal team sees this as a matter of "standing". You're not the victim of the alleged copyright infringement - you're neither the owner of the copyrights nor an agent thereof - so you have no legal standing to bring a copyright claim or request take-down on that basis.Here's a fun side note. I discovered that a parent 6 years ago recorded a performance of Grease at my school, broke it into 15 parts and posted it on YouTube. I went on and tried to get it pulled because I didn't want our current production of Grease to be in trouble for violation of the contract. So I reported the posts as a violation. Youtube not only refused to pull them they threatened to ban me from YouTube for waiting their time with a false report. They said that only the copyright holder is allowed to complain. So Sam French can pull them in the course of suing our theater, but I can't pull the videos to protect myself. I tried to argue that they had filmed minors without permission and that we may not own the script but we do own that licensed performance. They refused and kept threatening me. Finally I have up and was able to work with some alumni to figure out who filmed the performance and asked him to take them down which he did. So yeah, YouTube doesn't understand our industry and how our contracts work.
Yep. We don't own the copyright so we can't take it down. They didn't care that we could be sued by the copyright holder if a third party violated our contract. I believe fines run up to $25,000 per post. If I would have still had the contract paperwork I think I would have had a shot at getting it pulled. But since that teacher and paperwork were long gone, they didn't care.I'm pretty sure the Alphabet legal team sees this as a matter of "standing". You're not the victim of the alleged copyright infringement - you're neither the owner of the copyrights nor an agent thereof - so you have no legal standing to bring a copyright claim or request take-down on that basis.
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