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Building a fence that can withstand heavy side loading

Discussion in 'Scenery, Props, and Rigging' started by TimMiller, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. TimMiller

    TimMiller Well-Known Member

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    Just as the title states, this is what i need to do. I am thinking about building it out of thick aluminum. What is the best design to keep it from flexing side to side, when a cow leans on it?
     
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    It's not nice to refer to your heavier female technicians that way.

    The deeper the better I always say.
     
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    What show and what type of fence? A Barbwire fence would be braced differently than a wooden fence. What direction side load(perpendicular or parallel to the fence)??
     
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    A real cow or a fake cow?

    If the answer is fake, how heavy of a cow?

    What kind of fence? When I think cow, I think split rail fence (what most of the farms around here used to look like until the invention of the electric fence.) Or you could go really old school and pile rocks around the area... those should support a cow.
     
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    Are we talking real world cow ? Is this on stage ? I'm confused.:neutral:
     
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    Well in that case..... I'd do 8" diameter schedule #40 pipe at that corners of the area you want fenced. You need 6' below grade and 4 ' above grade. than you can drill holes every 18" insert stainless cable then run the length of the side. If your bent on using aluminum then insert a 10' length every 8 ' 6' deep. kep a consistent hole pattern every two poles put a "come-along" on the cable and tension it then swedge a stop crimp onto the load side of the cable next to the pole so it carries the tension, belive me it's easier to tensiona a fence every couple of poles than it is to do it at the end of a 400' run.
    BTW that gonna be a really expensive fence.
     
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    if you're making a chute for the cows, you can put some angle braces on the outside of the fence. If not, you want to sink your posts deeper and maybe put in concrete footers.

    I gotta say, this is really confusing.... maybe he's doing an outdoor show set on a farm? that has live animals? Noah's ark re-enactment?
     
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    I saw three cows fighting on the hillside across the street from my condo yesterday. I don't know what the one cow did to get the other two so ticked off, but they sure were going after it.:lol:
     
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    Maybe it's a fence for a table saw.....

    (But then you have to get the cow to wear the goggles.)


    Joe
     
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    I thought California only had Happy Cows?

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoPZXm53vuk[/media]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd8-zfIlDwY
     
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    They say that Missouri cows' right side legs are shorter than the left side 'cause they're alway standing on hills.
     
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    Watch out, the servers at native foods will inform you that they're unhappy cows, forced to consume growth hormones and whatnot. I believe the company with those commercials was sued. :lol:

    After the it? (Only pointing it out because you said you'd like to have your grammatical errors acknowledged.)

    Edit: "Last edited by cdub260; Today at 12:35 AM. Reason: Extra The" beat me to it!
     
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    So, were you working on your scathing critique of my grammar while I was editing the extra "the" out of my post? Could we pull this off again if we tried?:lol:
     
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    No idea, but it's getting creepy.
    And I wasn't scathing, I was just observing. :twisted:
     
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    You missed a golden opportunity to catch me in another error, but once again, I already corrected it. You're slipping 'dip.:rolleyes:
     
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    Oh, yes, I'll just have to stalk your every post to catch your typos as I have nothing better to do... :rolleyes:
    I'm going to sleep.
     
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    Real fence, with real cows. I am talking modular fencing, so you can make a chute. We just picked some up at auction that is made with a piece of 1" square tubing on each side, with about 4 runs of 1" pipe going horizontal. The fence is about 4' tall. I was wondering if there was a good way i could maybe make it out of aluminum to make it rust proof, but it needs to hold cows pushing on it. I was thinking about getting a price on an aluminum pipe, something like what is used to build trussing. I think it will hold plenty, you could probably rig off of it, but i wasnt sure if any of yall had ideas on how to build one.
     
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    Joking aside now:

    Is there a state agricultural department to contact. Or maybe they have that type of information on a website. But with metal railing/fence the choice of aluminum over steel is a pay-me-now or pay-me-later question. You may want to consider how long this fence has to be in place. A good paint job on steel pipe will last a long time.


    Joe
     
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    I am guessing that you need something like this

    dont' waste time on aluminum fence, cows love to rub and scratch on things and the aluminum is too soft unless you wrap barb wire around it to keep them off they will destroy it.. unless you get Dexter Cattle.

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    there is? I got chased by a headless chicken when I was 3 but I though he was trying to attack me.

    death is life, even vegetarians and vegans kill to live.
     
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    So back to the topic!!!

    So I'm still confused do you just want a temporary chute that you can set up and take down to get them from the field to the truck? Or are you trying to set up a whole pen like in Hillibilly's picture?

    My wife's got some old friends who have beef cattle. Their fences are simple wood posts with barb and electric wire all the way around. I can't think of a cheaper way to do it. As for a loading and unloading chute to get them on and off trucks it's a seriously heavy duty strong permanent structure with a ramp that comes right out of the back of the barn.
     

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