Well, maybe its not the lights but me. I hung 5 MLs obviously upside down and with their fronts (the side with the LED menu/address panel in etc.) facing upstage. But I just can't get the darn things to act like I think they should. If I turn them on and point them down with a narrow beam I would have thought moving tilt would swing the beam down and then up along the center line of the stage. But these guys travel at an angle. It's something to do with the axis the lamp house moves around for tilting, not being 90 deg to the up stage down stage. Not really sure of where to begin. Any ML gurus out there have any words of wisdom how they set up new MLs? At the moment I pull my Pan and Tilts and these things are like taming a bucking bronco!