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Elation Beam 2R lamp problems. Need Help!!!

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    Hello, I have a Beam 2R from elation that has been having lamp issues. The lamp fades out after 10 minutes of fixture usage then fades back in after being off for about 3-5 minutes(haven't exactly timed it). This keeps happening when the fixture is operating. The lamp has 412 hours of usage and is rated for 3000 hours. Any assistance in resolving this issue would be much appreciated. Thank you!
     
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    You getting error codes?

    When’s the last time you cleaned the fixture. It sounds like it’s overheating.
     
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    Cleaned it today, has been cleaned once before. Fixture is displaying the same behavior with the enclosure off. Verified BOTH fans are operational. My first guess was overheating so I removed the enclosure and tested it, no change. No Error Codes.
     
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    You powering it with 120 or 208?

    What are you using to control it?

    Did you throw it in test mode stand-alone to see if it did it without control.
     
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    Powering with 120. Controlling with DMX 192-512 board. Same behavior observed in TEST mode. Had not done that before, so just performed it and it displayed the same behavior.
     
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    Thanks! I was hoping for a quicker fix than that, but if that's what I have to do, then so be it. Thank you for your assistance. I will keep you posted. Thanks again!
     
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    Amiers Lighting Phoenix 1 Lamp at a Time

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    Sorry bro.

    GL and don’t shock yourself if you are metering stuff hot.
     
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    Fades out in dousing after 10min? or dimming out as if a dimming curve to no longer having useful output but still operating?
    It in fading back in, restriking an arc or fading back in with constant light just more output after a rest in output?

    So after cleaning and blowing out or replacing filters it's still dimming or dousing not clearly defined, than in a clean fixture still dousing or dimming still. Your 412 lamp hours is good in defining it's probably not a lamp issue, but don't expect a Snowball well before 3,000 hours.

    Operational fans means you put an ear to them of course in sounding normal to other fan noise.

    Until further defined as dousing in lamp out/off or going noticeably lower in output - yes there is going to be lamp problems, but it might not be the lamp. The balance in testing this question is how many good lamps one burns thru in solving the problem?

    Serious fixture warranty question if possible in sending it back for factory service. Even with questions above, I would say you did what you could short of wasting lamps in further testing.

    Take photos of the lamp - it's core will be hard to take, and lamp pins. I note no failed lamps yet - though if having problems, best to solve before failed lamps.

    Lamp hours in this class of lamsp is more a goal or imaginary concept for working but not useful output, but I don't see so far as part of the problem. This even if testing in a science lab. it's not with pyro dust or fog fluid or other issues this indicates environment of fixture or house different than expected.
     
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    To answer your questions, it cuts out, does not fade out. Fading in, restriking an arc ( I have a video of the behavior I could email over, I tried posting here as an .mov attachment without luck). At this point I have removed the thermostat and testing it without it attached and the behavior just repeated.

    Also, the amount of time I have spent on this thing trying to fix them, makes monetarily more sense to just toss it and buy new ones.

    Thank you for your message!
     
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    Don’t toss it lol. Take the video and upload it to YouTube then post it.
     
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    Here you go!
     
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    You either have it private or unlisted. Gotta make it public.

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    Just made it public, sorry about that!! here is the url again Thanks!
     
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    So you did this with the thermostat out of the mix?

    The looks like a bad cap or a bad ballast. It’s discharing and building back up with enough juice to restrike.
     
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    Yes, that's correct. I have attached a pic of the head with the therm removed.
     

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    It was a bad ballast! Swapped it out with the one from the other working beam and it fixed the issue. Thank you for your time and assistance.
     

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    No problem bro. It’s what I do.
     
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    Man I'm getting old. That's a ballast these days?!
     
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    @Les I'm not certain but I think it's sand contained in sand bags secured around the perimeter of your hot air balloon's gondola. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's right. Possibly @TimMc can confirm or maybe @GreyWyvern
    Toodleoo!
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